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<blockquote data-quote="Eltab" data-source="post: 8706095" data-attributes="member: 6803337">Since Greyhawk has been on the Obsolete Shelf (and the Lawsuit Magnet Closet) for a generation, new player options will have to draw on things that BASIC and 1e had, which were not subsequently followed up.<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Racial / cultural paragon feats.&nbsp; The essence of the most elf-y an individual can be or become.&nbsp; &quot;Elf&quot; and &quot;Dwarf&quot; used to be a class not a race.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Your Alignment guides your actions, even for PCs.&nbsp; You won't stay NG for long if you keep destroying villages in order to save them.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Evil with a capital E does exist and it is no laughing matter.&nbsp; Ravenloft and Greyhawk share this feature.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Fantastical landscapes due to ubermagic.&nbsp; The Sea of Dust, a petrified forest that can still grow, that crashed spaceship.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Somewhat limited choice of playable character race.&nbsp; The orcs here are always-CE; nobody has ever heard of a dragonborn even in the wildest of dreams.&nbsp; OTOH no caricature / joke races like kender either.</li>
</ul>There is a Johnny Cash story from when he joined Lalapalooza: the old man sang some songs from his childhood and the teens / twenties listening reacted with &quot;We've never heard these songs before!&nbsp; They're new!&quot;&nbsp;&nbsp; Greyhawk offers the opportunity to do the same for people who discovered D&amp;D with 5e and for those who are too young to remember a Living Greyhawk.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Eltab, post: 8706095, member: 6803337"] Since Greyhawk has been on the Obsolete Shelf (and the Lawsuit Magnet Closet) for a generation, new player options will have to draw on things that BASIC and 1e had, which were not subsequently followed up. [LIST] [*]Racial / cultural paragon feats. The essence of the most elf-y an individual can be or become. "Elf" and "Dwarf" used to be a class not a race. [*]Your Alignment guides your actions, even for PCs. You won't stay NG for long if you keep destroying villages in order to save them. [*]Evil with a capital E does exist and it is no laughing matter. Ravenloft and Greyhawk share this feature. [*]Fantastical landscapes due to ubermagic. The Sea of Dust, a petrified forest that can still grow, that crashed spaceship. [*]Somewhat limited choice of playable character race. The orcs here are always-CE; nobody has ever heard of a dragonborn even in the wildest of dreams. OTOH no caricature / joke races like kender either. [/LIST] There is a Johnny Cash story from when he joined Lalapalooza: the old man sang some songs from his childhood and the teens / twenties listening reacted with "We've never heard these songs before! They're new!" Greyhawk offers the opportunity to do the same for people who discovered D&D with 5e and for those who are too young to remember a Living Greyhawk. [/QUOTE]

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