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<blockquote data-quote="Man in the Funny Hat" data-source="post: 8759730" data-attributes="member: 32740"><p>NO edition of D&D has an expiration date. Doesn't matter why they might want old Grognards to drink the koolaid - they just don't have to buy into 5E if they don't want to. Nobody does. Everyone can play any past edition to their hearts content until they die. The problem the old guard might face is finding people to play. 5E is the 800# gorilla and just doesn't need to care about grognards (old schoolers, or whatever you want to call them). The NON-5E numbers of players are simply <em>insignificant</em> to their success.</p><p></p><p>I have enjoyed playing 5E, but I have no desire to RUN it as a DM. If players WANT me to run a game then they're certainly gonna be playing 3E E6 or house-ruled 1E. I'd been thinking I might stoop to running a 5E Spelljammer game, but that's feeling less likely as time goes by. Part of the problem IS that the people I want to play with aren't all in the same area. The idea of a truly 3D VTT to run games on DOES have appeal to me. WHEN I SEE IT, I will then assess if it's worth actually trying. Until then it's all just everybody's WILD, largely baseless speculation. They're also making rules changes. I have no idea what effect those would have on 5E gameplay as it currently stands. Frankly, I don't much care because I'm STILL more interested in running older editions and NOT in running 5E. But if someone else invites me to play in a 5E game, or OneD&D game - I'll bite. My enjoyment of such a game would not then hinge upon the system but upon the game as presented BY THAT DM. That was always the case and always will be. A good DM can run an enjoyable game of even not-very-good rules, but if the DM just has little or no interest in the underlying rules then the game they present will greatly suffer accordingly. The rules matter a lot more for me as DM than they do for me as a player.</p><p></p><p>Frankly, the best outcome for me at this point is a new OneD&D VTT that I can use for OTHER editions as well and not have to commit to running ONLY OneD&D with it. I don't see that as terribly likely. Again - they don't have a REASON to care about older editions or those who might prefer them. And in terms of programming a VTT, they're taking on a HELL of a lot bigger task to adapt it all to multiple rules editions and/or house rules than to cater only to the rules they WANT to cater to. Herding everyone to ONE set of rules is better for them for sales. They've been doing it since they bought TSR in the first place. They tried a VTT once before back in the beginning in the 3E era and it failed quite hard. I'm not convinced yet that THIS attempt will actually succeed to the degree they want people to believe it will.</p><p></p><p>I will wait and see, and hold my final judgements until then.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Man in the Funny Hat, post: 8759730, member: 32740"] NO edition of D&D has an expiration date. Doesn't matter why they might want old Grognards to drink the koolaid - they just don't have to buy into 5E if they don't want to. Nobody does. Everyone can play any past edition to their hearts content until they die. The problem the old guard might face is finding people to play. 5E is the 800# gorilla and just doesn't need to care about grognards (old schoolers, or whatever you want to call them). The NON-5E numbers of players are simply [I]insignificant[/I] to their success. I have enjoyed playing 5E, but I have no desire to RUN it as a DM. If players WANT me to run a game then they're certainly gonna be playing 3E E6 or house-ruled 1E. I'd been thinking I might stoop to running a 5E Spelljammer game, but that's feeling less likely as time goes by. Part of the problem IS that the people I want to play with aren't all in the same area. The idea of a truly 3D VTT to run games on DOES have appeal to me. WHEN I SEE IT, I will then assess if it's worth actually trying. Until then it's all just everybody's WILD, largely baseless speculation. They're also making rules changes. I have no idea what effect those would have on 5E gameplay as it currently stands. Frankly, I don't much care because I'm STILL more interested in running older editions and NOT in running 5E. But if someone else invites me to play in a 5E game, or OneD&D game - I'll bite. My enjoyment of such a game would not then hinge upon the system but upon the game as presented BY THAT DM. That was always the case and always will be. A good DM can run an enjoyable game of even not-very-good rules, but if the DM just has little or no interest in the underlying rules then the game they present will greatly suffer accordingly. The rules matter a lot more for me as DM than they do for me as a player. Frankly, the best outcome for me at this point is a new OneD&D VTT that I can use for OTHER editions as well and not have to commit to running ONLY OneD&D with it. I don't see that as terribly likely. Again - they don't have a REASON to care about older editions or those who might prefer them. And in terms of programming a VTT, they're taking on a HELL of a lot bigger task to adapt it all to multiple rules editions and/or house rules than to cater only to the rules they WANT to cater to. Herding everyone to ONE set of rules is better for them for sales. They've been doing it since they bought TSR in the first place. They tried a VTT once before back in the beginning in the 3E era and it failed quite hard. I'm not convinced yet that THIS attempt will actually succeed to the degree they want people to believe it will. I will wait and see, and hold my final judgements until then. [/QUOTE]
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