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<blockquote data-quote="Man in the Funny Hat" data-source="post: 8784071" data-attributes="member: 32740">Correlation is not causation though.&nbsp; That the OSR and the decline of 3.5 sales coincided doesn't have to mean that OSR prompted the decline.&nbsp; Certainly little OSRIC didn't prompt it by itself.&nbsp; It could well be the reverse - that the 3.5 decline itself prompted the growth of the OSR once OSRIC appeared.&nbsp; Or it could be both - OR it might all be a massive coincidence.&nbsp; One thing is certain though - 4E was a dud that drove a lot of people to other games and other editions, even if SOME people liked it.&nbsp; It wasn't that it was inherently bad - it could have made a fine system with some other name on it.&nbsp; It just wasn't what customers wanted for their D&amp;D.And yeah, I think 5E benefits more from good marketing and circumstances that managed to get people to look at it than from being all that spectacular of a system.&nbsp; But it's hard for me not to be biased.&nbsp; I still prefer 1 (and 3.5 when 3.5 sticks closer to lower levels).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Man in the Funny Hat, post: 8784071, member: 32740"] Correlation is not causation though. That the OSR and the decline of 3.5 sales coincided doesn't have to mean that OSR prompted the decline. Certainly little OSRIC didn't prompt it by itself. It could well be the reverse - that the 3.5 decline itself prompted the growth of the OSR once OSRIC appeared. Or it could be both - OR it might all be a massive coincidence. One thing is certain though - 4E was a dud that drove a lot of people to other games and other editions, even if SOME people liked it. It wasn't that it was inherently bad - it could have made a fine system with some other name on it. It just wasn't what customers wanted for their D&D. And yeah, I think 5E benefits more from good marketing and circumstances that managed to get people to look at it than from being all that spectacular of a system. But it's hard for me not to be biased. I still prefer 1 (and 3.5 when 3.5 sticks closer to lower levels). [/QUOTE]

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