Grr!! More reasons to hate apple...

[HeavenShallBurn]

Apple products are generally of good quality, well put together with attention to finish and last well. I'm just looking for an ugly rugged box that I can cheapy and quickly modify or repair as necessary, so the Apple features tend not to factor with me. Where the snootiness of their marketing and attitude combined with proprietary hardware is what puts me out over them.

Steve Jobs on the other hand just rubs me the wrong way as a person and would no matter what he did I think.

 

[Vocenoctum]

What does this have to do with free pr0n?

The Auld Grump

The was the Original Purpose, things evolve man!

 

[LightPhoenix]

The was the Original Purpose, things evolve man!

Which is why we now have ads for penis pills in our e-mail.

 

[Ranger REG]

Hehehe.

This is MY kind of thread.

 

[Generico]

The principle of Steve Jobs creating 'knuckle children' on each Apple product made me spit up my coffee. ...and it probably will be the kiss of death for this thread once a mod sees it.

My work here is done...

 

[azhrei_fje]

I've never owned a Mac before, but I bought a MacBook Pro (17" display, 2GB RAM, 160GB 7200rpm drive) last August as a replacement from my Compaq. I got it mostly because I've noticed that the students in my Linux classes (primarily technical courses: Internals, Sys Admin, Device Driver, Kernel debugging, etc) have been Mac owners.

So far the Mac is ... "okay". On a scale of 1 to 10 I would give it a 6 or 7. Overall value for the money I would say is below average. In terms of innovative features, I would give it a 9.

The machine itself is overpriced, IMO. For the money I spent, I could've gotten two "PC compatible" laptops. Had I purchased a PC laptop, I would've installed Linux on it without booting Windows at all (and then taken my Windows CDs back to the store for a refund!). I would probably use Kubuntu with virtual machines running RHEL, SUSE, and Ubuntu. And maybe a plain Debian as well.

I do like some of the innovations of the Mac interface, though. I like the Ctrl-mouse wheel to zoom the desktop, hitting F11 to clear the desktop and then another F11 to bring it back, I like how the Airport locates wireless networks, and I like that it doesn't have a fan!

But I miss having windows that snap into place when they get near the edge of the screen or another window, I miss having multiple virtual desktops, I miss a window manager that allows me to customize the startup configuration of an application's GUI, I miss my Kontact one-stop news organizer (mail, RSS, news reader all in one), I miss frequent updates to the Java 5/6 JVMs, and I really miss the programmability of the KDE desktop. (I cannot for the life of me figure out how to mark a shell script as executable on OS X without using a command line. Weird!)

Anyway, I'm no Jobs fanboy. Nor Apple. When I'm ready to spend laptop money again (probably a year or two), I'll be getting a quad-core AMD machine. It won't be a Mac. Oh, and I'll wipe OS X from the machine I'm using now and put Xen on it with multiple Linux distributions...

 

[drothgery]

Anyway, I'm no Jobs fanboy. Nor Apple. When I'm ready to spend laptop money again (probably a year or two), I'll be getting a quad-core AMD machine. It won't be a Mac.

Nothing in Intel or AMD's roadmaps that I've seen suggests quad-core notebooks are going to be anything other than prestige toys (i.e. high-priced 'extreme edition' parts) for at least the next year or two. Certainly this year, anyway.

 

[Redrobes]

LOL, This thread should be archived for all eternity, to be dusted off and brought out at any time anyone wants to see a thread starting out as a rant and ending up as rational (and humorous) postings. I gotta re-read this just to determine at exactly what point the knuckle children entered...

 

[Steve Jung]

I like that it doesn't have a fan!

I'm pretty sure it does. It's just really quiet.

But I miss having windows that snap into place when they get near the edge of the screen or another window, I miss having multiple virtual desktops

Do you have OSX 10.5? Would Spaces be what you want?

 

[Orius]

Where the snootiness of their marketing and attitude combined with proprietary hardware is what puts me out over them.

Yeah, that's pretty much how I feel. Apple's stuff comes off as yuppieware to me. Granted, they do often have good ideas, and the stuff is supposed to deserve the reputation for quality it has, but it's also expensive as well.

Steve Jobs on the other hand just rubs me the wrong way as a person and would no matter what he did I think.

I don't care one way or other about Jobs. It's more a matter of being completely bewildered at the adulation showered upon him by techies. For example, the iPhone launch last year; you'd think he was delivering the Sermon on the Mount or something. He's a savvy businessman, I give him credit for that. He deserves it for being able to stay in the market as long as he has while it was being dominated by IBM/Microsoft/Intel. But he's hardly superhuman.