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<blockquote data-quote="MikalC" data-source="post: 7994121" data-attributes="member: 7024209">No. I’m fine with him chucking the thing TWENTY Feet without disadvantage. If you actually paid attention to the rules you’d know the first number is normal range, the second is long range, which applies its own disadvantage.except that you’re wrong in every aspect here.One it’s not easier, as shown above. Unless you think a non proficient 20 foot throw for 1d4+str is better than a straight up disadvantage melee attack for 1d12+str, or even better, a 21-60 ft throw at disadvantage.Also you state that improvised weapons only means you don’t add your proficiency modifier. The improvised weapon rules have been stated several times and you’re simply wrong. If that were the case then the rules would say they keep x qualities while having y different qualities. They only state the weapon has y different qualities.unless, again, you’re going to argue that a crossbow used as a melee weapon still had the loading quality.Except in my case I’m using the actual RAW, and you’re not</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MikalC, post: 7994121, member: 7024209"] No. I’m fine with him chucking the thing TWENTY Feet without disadvantage. If you actually paid attention to the rules you’d know the first number is normal range, the second is long range, which applies its own disadvantage. except that you’re wrong in every aspect here. One it’s not easier, as shown above. Unless you think a non proficient 20 foot throw for 1d4+str is better than a straight up disadvantage melee attack for 1d12+str, or even better, a 21-60 ft throw at disadvantage. Also you state that improvised weapons only means you don’t add your proficiency modifier. The improvised weapon rules have been stated several times and you’re simply wrong. If that were the case then the rules would say they keep x qualities while having y different qualities. They only state the weapon has y different qualities. unless, again, you’re going to argue that a crossbow used as a melee weapon still had the loading quality. Except in my case I’m using the actual RAW, and you’re not [/QUOTE]

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