Half-Ogre/Half-Orc?!

Kristivas · Dec 17, 2006

Has anyone here seen or even created one of these monstrosities? If so, could you tell me where or post stats? If not, no better time than the present!

smootrk · Dec 17, 2006

Look up Orogs or Ogrillons. They are both considered Orc/Ogre crossbreeds. One or both may be in the Tome of Horrors (or the revised 3.5 pdf of the same). Not sure where else they may appear in actual WotC materials.

Sejs · Dec 17, 2006

Kristivas said:
Has anyone here seen or even created one of these monstrosities? If so, could you tell me where or post stats? If not, no better time than the present!

You mean an ogrillion?

Simple Version: Just use the standard half-ogre stats. Follows the same logic as stating a Half Orc (or Elf) / Half Something Else. The half-ogre isn't expressing any features of the non-ogre parent's race anyway.

Slightly Less Simple Version: Standard half-ogre stats, toss on an additional +2 str, and -2 int and cha. Opens the door to mix-and-match crossbreed statting though, which can get annoying, complicated, or abusable.

Echohawk · Dec 17, 2006

The ogrillon's last official appearance was in Dungeon #83, but you can find a good unofficial update in Bestiary of the Realms, Volume 2.

Kristivas · Dec 17, 2006

Echohawk said:
The ogrillon's last official appearance was in Dungeon #83, but you can find a good unofficial update in Bestiary of the Realms, Volume 2.

Thanks a ton. That's excellent for what I need. You rock.

smootrk · Dec 18, 2006

I just got a chance to double check, and the Ogrillon (male ogre / female orc crossbreed), and the Orog (male orc / female ogre crossbreed) are in fact, both listed in the Tome of Horrors vol. one (although I am checking the revised 3.5 edition pdf of that book). There are differences between the two races. The stats seem sound in this edition despite not being an official WotC product. Overall the ToH1 is one really great book to have a copy of.

The Bestiary of the Realms version for the ogrillon may be a little closer to official because WotC typically employs those writers for official books. I have not checked for differences between the two versions.