the Jester
Legend
I really like this idea.
I think you'd be set if you dropped the HD to d8 and made the BAB medium instead of good.
I think you'd be set if you dropped the HD to d8 and made the BAB medium instead of good.
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Halfling Hound Master PrC
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Thanee
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Well, dropping BAB for a primary fighter is a no-go for sure. Dropping HD might work, but doesn't seem to fit well, either.
I still think the best would be to add one non-optimal feat choice as a requirement (almost all PrC have something like that) and cut down a little on the special abilities.
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Thanee
I still think the best would be to add one non-optimal feat choice as a requirement (almost all PrC have something like that) and cut down a little on the special abilities.
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Thanee
Well, there are five special abilities that are paritularly cool: The bonded mount, the pack, the full mounted attack, pin and tear, and the baying of the pack. Now, both the bonded mount and the pack will be behind the normal types for their level, making them weaker and more vulnerable for their supposed power. Full mounted attack makes sense, though that could be dropped fairly easily. Pin and tear was a specific request, and it is just a normal grapple done through a specific medium (that of a spear for example), with all the attendent penalties and restrictions thereof. Baying of the Pack is mostly kind of cool, but at that level you're mostly hoping to affect the mooks and cronies, probably not the main bad guy.
The other abilities give you the ability to be nice to dogs and to handle them well. Those are nice but not game breaking, and the bonuses to Ride are the same. The bonuses to flanking are rather necessary when the pack will be sub-par, effectively, for their level. And the ability to not be flanked is a nice perk, but he doesn't get it until higher levels.
However, I will agree with stiffer requirements because it is a very nice class.
The other abilities give you the ability to be nice to dogs and to handle them well. Those are nice but not game breaking, and the bonuses to Ride are the same. The bonuses to flanking are rather necessary when the pack will be sub-par, effectively, for their level. And the ability to not be flanked is a nice perk, but he doesn't get it until higher levels.
However, I will agree with stiffer requirements because it is a very nice class.
Thanee
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What I still don't really get is what that pin and tear is supposed to do.
You say it works just like normal grapple, but that certainly doesn't seem so. If it was normal grapple, the character would be unmounted and could not use the weapon and so on, also he would have to be in the same or adjacent square, not 10 feet away.
If it is regular grapple, then the one that is being grappled can just use normal grappling maneuvers against the character. Also the character would be unable to move, lose Dex bonus to AC, and so on... everything that happens in a grapple.
I somehow fail to see how this could work with that ability, especially when trying to picture it?
I really don't think regular grapple (unless using the -20 mechanics) is what you are looking for here.
Maybe take a look at the Ranged Pin feat from Complete Warrior, that does something fairly similar.
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Thanee
You say it works just like normal grapple, but that certainly doesn't seem so. If it was normal grapple, the character would be unmounted and could not use the weapon and so on, also he would have to be in the same or adjacent square, not 10 feet away.
If it is regular grapple, then the one that is being grappled can just use normal grappling maneuvers against the character. Also the character would be unable to move, lose Dex bonus to AC, and so on... everything that happens in a grapple.
I somehow fail to see how this could work with that ability, especially when trying to picture it?
I really don't think regular grapple (unless using the -20 mechanics) is what you are looking for here.
Maybe take a look at the Ranged Pin feat from Complete Warrior, that does something fairly similar.
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Thanee
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