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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9015666" data-attributes="member: 6790260">Did I ever do that?Have I ever, even once, "lobbied" for that, on this forum, to say nothing of in this thread?I've said I can see the value in it. I don't personally prefer it, and I have said as much many times. My preferred solution is the 13A method, where you get one stat bonus from class, and the other from race/ancestry/whatever. That way, no Wizard ever has to just suck at being a Wizard (edit: unless that's what the player really wants, I guess?), but every Orc Wizard is going to be stout or strong (+Con/+Str) in addition to the book-smarts that learning to be a successful Wizard earned them. Verisimilitude gets reasonable deference--every Orc will be stout or strong (inclusive or), every Elf will be clever or agile--but ease-of-use also gets its due.[USER=2525]@Mistwell[/USER] Do you see, now, why I "resort" to such "hyperbole"? Because I literally didn't even specify a single thing--I didn't argue for any specific features whatsoever--but I was immediately pinned with supporting something I don't actually like, and accused of thus supporting a bland, dull gameplay experience. Is it really hyperbole when it's literally happened in this very thread?</blockquote>