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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 9016699" data-attributes="member: 22779">People like a lot of things.  People like Tieflings and Dragonborn and Genasi as well.  Which is the point I keep trying to make.  Races that don't appear in Tolkien have become quite popular, despite the Tolkien races getting top billing in every single book and supplement.  The amount of material about elves in Forgotten Realms is massive.  Same as Dwarves.  Never minding other settings as well.  Which hedges out any development of anything that doesn't appear in Tolkien.  And any suggestion of changing that is immediately shouted down.If Tieflings and Dragonborn had been added in 5e and failed, I'd be arguing that they should be dropped.  I feel that the PHB should reflect what people are actually playing, not some fifty year old decision that was made before a lot of the newer ideas even existed.Heh, it's actually really funny.  I don't have to.  The players do it for me.  Last halfling I saw in a game was about ten years ago at the beginning of 5e.  Haven't seen a gnome that I recall.  My current Candlekeep campaign which just finished today (2 full years - I'm REALLY happy!) featured a warforged, a dragonborn, a tiefling, an owlfolk and a Lucidling.  We're about as far from Tolkien as you can possibly get.  Next campaign is a Spelljammer one, so, all the limits are off, but, so far it's a Dragonborn and an Autognome.  It's really not about limiting my game.  It's not like the players are asking for any of the Tolkien races.  They seem to have no interest.  And I certainly don't care if they take any race.  Anything is always on the table.  THEY are the ones who show zero interest, not me.  And it's been that way since the 3e days.  Different players, different groups, some I've DM'd, some I haven't.  Sure, it's very obviously confirmation bias going on.  I get that.  But, like I said, for those I've gamed with over the years, if halfling and gnome disappeared from the PHB, no one would notice.  Heck, back in 3e, when I ran Scarred Lands, we were three years in before anyone realized that Scarred Lands didn't have gnomes.  No one even noticed.</blockquote>

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