Handle Animal while Wild Shaped?

[frankthedm]

I'll disagree with that specific assertion because Link is a special ability that the companion gets. It seems we come to the same conclusion, though.

A trained animal responds to your commands, shapechanging magic can easily make those commands impossible to give. The brown bear waving it's paw at a down ally and going "Gurrrrrraaahhhh!" is a hell of a lot different than giving a hand gesture at that ally and shouting "Protect!".

But as mentioned, giving a druids bond with it's animal companion an "oh, alright" seems fair enough.

 

[Moon-Lancer]

They don't give much warning to the wizard who casts invisibility and then realizes he can't read any of his scrolls since those are also invisible.

Where does it say that you see or don't see yourself? You have point though.

It does't state the perceptions of the person invisible person. I dont know if they can or can not see them self.

Consider that its an Illusion and not transmutation.

my view is that their is no rule ether way.

anyway, I don't think that handle animal changes at all from normal form to animal form.

 

[atomn]

A trained animal responds to your commands, shapechanging magic can easily make those commands impossible to give. The brown bear waving it's paw at a down ally and going "Gurrrrrraaahhhh!" is a hell of a lot different than giving a hand gesture at that ally and shouting "Protect!".

But as mentioned, giving a druids bond with it's animal companion an "oh, alright" seems fair enough.

That discrepancy is exactly what I was concerned about and I would rule it the same way. But I wanted to make sure there wasn't a clause or clarification that gave a solid ruling.

Thanks for the thoughts, all!!

 

[moritheil]

A trained animal responds to your commands, shapechanging magic can easily make those commands impossible to give. The brown bear waving it's paw at a down ally and going "Gurrrrrraaahhhh!" is a hell of a lot different than giving a hand gesture at that ally and shouting "Protect!".

But as mentioned, giving a druids bond with it's animal companion an "oh, alright" seems fair enough.

You're getting logic in my RAW!