Reply to thread

Message

<blockquote data-quote="overgeeked" data-source="post: 8383596" data-attributes="member: 86653">I disagree that the &quot;bad ending&quot; is actually bad in itself. It's a bad player reaction to the situation, not a bad situation. As the saying goes, &quot;There's no such thing as bad weather, only inappropriate clothes.&quot; The good player will take that and work with it make it a part of the character and keep playing. The bad player will throw a fit and repeat that phrase you included about the DM being a jerk. If the player doesn't want harm to come to their character, they shouldn't be playing anything with even a hint of possible danger in it. You risk your life on a daily basis? You can end up losing an eye or a finger or a hand or a leg. Some settings have magic or tech to replace those lost bits, but not all. The player psychology behind the &quot;bad ending&quot; is that the player doesn't want their precious character to have any flaws or drawbacks or hindrances. That's not how most games work. Especially not action-adventure games...which cover the majority of RPGs. If the player wants their character perfect, whole, and intact, then they don't want to play an action-adventure game. They don't want the risks associated with even a whiff of verisimilitude. The best system for handling permanent injuries is to use them and filter out the players who don't want to deal with the consequences of their actions in the game and those who don't want to actually play action-adventure games. There are plenty of amazing games out there where injury and death aren't an assumed part of play. A lot of them are really quite fun. Once you cross into &quot;I'm going to gleefully murder ten-thousand orcs to level up&quot; land, missing PCs bits is an option.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="overgeeked, post: 8383596, member: 86653"] I disagree that the "bad ending" is actually bad in itself. It's a bad player reaction to the situation, not a bad situation. As the saying goes, "There's no such thing as bad weather, only inappropriate clothes." The good player will take that and work with it make it a part of the character and keep playing. The bad player will throw a fit and repeat that phrase you included about the DM being a jerk. If the player doesn't want harm to come to their character, they shouldn't be playing anything with even a hint of possible danger in it. You risk your life on a daily basis? You can end up losing an eye or a finger or a hand or a leg. Some settings have magic or tech to replace those lost bits, but not all. The player psychology behind the "bad ending" is that the player doesn't want their precious character to have any flaws or drawbacks or hindrances. That's not how most games work. Especially not action-adventure games...which cover the majority of RPGs. If the player wants their character perfect, whole, and intact, then they don't want to play an action-adventure game. They don't want the risks associated with even a whiff of verisimilitude. The best system for handling permanent injuries is to use them and filter out the players who don't want to deal with the consequences of their actions in the game and those who don't want to actually play action-adventure games. There are plenty of amazing games out there where injury and death aren't an assumed part of play. A lot of them are really quite fun. Once you cross into "I'm going to gleefully murder ten-thousand orcs to level up" land, missing PCs bits is an option. [/QUOTE]

Verification