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<blockquote data-quote="Banshee16" data-source="post: 5807183" data-attributes="member: 7883"><p>Obviously, I understand Paizo was modifying a predefined system. They were also a much smaller company than WotC and still managed to find a way to solicit customer input effectively. The situation is still relevant. Contrast with the development of 4E where the game was effectively sprung by surprise, with very little input from the eventual customers.</p><p></p><p>I feel I understand what the original poster was saying about whether or not WotC should be taking the input of other company's customers. I'm not defensive about it. I was just pointing out what I felt was an incorrect analysis. Those of us who left are not currently WotC customers. That is true. BUT WOTC MADE THAT CHOICE with the game that they made, how they marketed it, etc. It's not incorrect for me to say that we WANT to be WotC's customers. But they have to make a game that we feel is worth spending money on. The fact that WotC has announced 5E a short 4 years after the release of 4E tells me that there's probably a truth to the idea that they lost a significant proportion of their customer base. And created probably their strongest competitor. So they have to fix the situation by getting an edition that somehow doesn't lose a large percentage of current customers, and also brings back a good number of lapsed customers. Lots of sales information (from limited sources) has seemed to indicate Pathfinder was doing a great job of catching up.</p><p></p><p>As to waiting.....absolutely.....that's entirely my plan. I just feel that if they state they're doing open playtests etc. they're not truly open if they're dependent upon flying to a convention across the country. Heck, I just talked to one of my old players who's currently playing 4E and Pathfinder (mostly Pathfinder....gave up on 4E), and he wasn't even AWARE that 5E had been announced. So we'll see how much information came out. For 3rd Ed., there were a tonne of articles in Dragon Magazine, giving a lot of information about what the game would be like.</p><p></p><p>Hopefully 5E is more in tune with what I'm interested in running/playing. But it's premature to discuss if WotC has restored people's faith. We don't know enough.</p><p></p><p>Banshee</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Banshee16, post: 5807183, member: 7883"] Obviously, I understand Paizo was modifying a predefined system. They were also a much smaller company than WotC and still managed to find a way to solicit customer input effectively. The situation is still relevant. Contrast with the development of 4E where the game was effectively sprung by surprise, with very little input from the eventual customers. I feel I understand what the original poster was saying about whether or not WotC should be taking the input of other company's customers. I'm not defensive about it. I was just pointing out what I felt was an incorrect analysis. Those of us who left are not currently WotC customers. That is true. BUT WOTC MADE THAT CHOICE with the game that they made, how they marketed it, etc. It's not incorrect for me to say that we WANT to be WotC's customers. But they have to make a game that we feel is worth spending money on. The fact that WotC has announced 5E a short 4 years after the release of 4E tells me that there's probably a truth to the idea that they lost a significant proportion of their customer base. And created probably their strongest competitor. So they have to fix the situation by getting an edition that somehow doesn't lose a large percentage of current customers, and also brings back a good number of lapsed customers. Lots of sales information (from limited sources) has seemed to indicate Pathfinder was doing a great job of catching up. As to waiting.....absolutely.....that's entirely my plan. I just feel that if they state they're doing open playtests etc. they're not truly open if they're dependent upon flying to a convention across the country. Heck, I just talked to one of my old players who's currently playing 4E and Pathfinder (mostly Pathfinder....gave up on 4E), and he wasn't even AWARE that 5E had been announced. So we'll see how much information came out. For 3rd Ed., there were a tonne of articles in Dragon Magazine, giving a lot of information about what the game would be like. Hopefully 5E is more in tune with what I'm interested in running/playing. But it's premature to discuss if WotC has restored people's faith. We don't know enough. Banshee [/QUOTE]
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