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<blockquote data-quote="Steel_Wind" data-source="post: 8852562" data-attributes="member: 20741"><p>Alright, I watched him.</p><p></p><p>What do I think? I think it's a pile of ALARMIST CRAP made by someone who doesn't even know the technology that he's complaining about. VTT's have been around before Roll20. The main competitor to Roll20 is Foundry VTT. He doesn't mention Foundry even once -- <em>because he doesn't even know about it. </em>He thinks CoC is the 2nd leading RPG -- because he's basing his data on Roll20. He doesn't know WHY Pathfinder GMs abandoned Roll20 for Foundry VTT en masse in 2020 and the first half of 2021 for Foundry VTT. There are<em> good reasons</em> for that which show how easy it is to auto-import a PDF into a VTT and have it work for all and sundry automagically. But he doesn't know this becuase he doesn't care enough about VTT play to know.</p><p></p><p>He simply doesn't know much at all about VTT play - or how large it is. This is not surprising as his comments demonstrate that he believes it is a lesser form of gaming that has no legitimacy. He <strong><em>clearly believes</em></strong> that in person physical play is superior (I don't agree) or that the move away from TotM is some sin and inherently limiting factor which is a BAD IDEA (I have had this conversation with a few GMs - including one who is a good friend. Crap to that.)</p><p></p><p>I don't have any issues with a more fulsome VTT experience that delievers higher visual fidelity. And that's from somone who's first experience with the game was a siege combat in OD&D using lead minis, a model of castle walls and a grid on a ping-pong table in <strong>1977</strong>. My main complaint is that we have had to wait so long for these digital toys, not that they are coming at last. They should have been here in ~2010. That it took a pandemic to take the blinders off of game publishers so that they could see the revenue steams they are missing -- and the ease of use of the medium -- is the astonishing thing.</p><p></p><p>So... no. He's not <em>completely</em> wrong, but he is alarmist, biased AF and yes -- <em>mostly</em> full of crap. <strong><em>What he really is most of all is an advocate for a particular style of gaming </em></strong>and is overly attached to what he sees as the One. True. Game. that he will make alarmist statements about it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Steel_Wind, post: 8852562, member: 20741"] Alright, I watched him. What do I think? I think it's a pile of ALARMIST CRAP made by someone who doesn't even know the technology that he's complaining about. VTT's have been around before Roll20. The main competitor to Roll20 is Foundry VTT. He doesn't mention Foundry even once -- [I]because he doesn't even know about it. [/I]He thinks CoC is the 2nd leading RPG -- because he's basing his data on Roll20. He doesn't know WHY Pathfinder GMs abandoned Roll20 for Foundry VTT en masse in 2020 and the first half of 2021 for Foundry VTT. There are[I] good reasons[/I] for that which show how easy it is to auto-import a PDF into a VTT and have it work for all and sundry automagically. But he doesn't know this becuase he doesn't care enough about VTT play to know. He simply doesn't know much at all about VTT play - or how large it is. This is not surprising as his comments demonstrate that he believes it is a lesser form of gaming that has no legitimacy. He [B][I]clearly believes[/I][/B] that in person physical play is superior (I don't agree) or that the move away from TotM is some sin and inherently limiting factor which is a BAD IDEA (I have had this conversation with a few GMs - including one who is a good friend. Crap to that.) I don't have any issues with a more fulsome VTT experience that delievers higher visual fidelity. And that's from somone who's first experience with the game was a siege combat in OD&D using lead minis, a model of castle walls and a grid on a ping-pong table in [B]1977[/B]. My main complaint is that we have had to wait so long for these digital toys, not that they are coming at last. They should have been here in ~2010. That it took a pandemic to take the blinders off of game publishers so that they could see the revenue steams they are missing -- and the ease of use of the medium -- is the astonishing thing. So... no. He's not [I]completely[/I] wrong, but he is alarmist, biased AF and yes -- [I]mostly[/I] full of crap. [B][I]What he really is most of all is an advocate for a particular style of gaming [/I][/B]and is overly attached to what he sees as the One. True. Game. that he will make alarmist statements about it. [/QUOTE]
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