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<blockquote data-quote="Vincent55" data-source="post: 8853309" data-attributes="member: 7037991"><p>I already toss money at electronic vapour wear with champions online, so hard pass on and online D&D shortcut. I ran a few games with this new generation who do everything online at that site. They are not learning anything about how to build or play a character, or what they can and can't do besides what it tells them they can. I use online tools to help me in a pinch or to write up encounters and all parts of being a DM, but i also have read every book and make characters with a sheet and a pencil, because when you do this you read and learn. Whereas on this you just check boxes and it fills it in for you, i get it takes the work out of it for the player but does it really. I remember as a player pouring over book after book looking up this ability and that spells and skills and feats and so one to make the right combination. This is what made me great at knowing how the classes worked and what powers did and after a time i didn't have to look them up all the time. But the main issue is distraction, they constantly look at their phone not listening or contributing to the game. I honestly feel that D&D has lost its magic of what it was, a group of people who didn't fit in and could come together for a night and forget all the reality of this world and become something from their imagination. They could face a high risk of danger and death each sharing the experience together around a table with bags of chips soda or whatever snakes they like. spilt pop and the smell of pizza or whatever bill got at the quick run to the convenience store that day. Playing until ted passed out because he was weak sauce and could hang until the end of the dungeon of death, i miss those days of my youth and what D&D stood for. It has always been about the game and having fun and was never about the real world or who you were in it, and i have seen this game fractured so many times and greed and money being the focus. Any way I have decided to never buy a single D&D product again, i have my older books and a few second or third-party ones that are far better and have much more support and content than this does now. I wish them good luck but for me and suspect many more this is not my D&D anymore, it is just a business about selling the idea but with no substance.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vincent55, post: 8853309, member: 7037991"] I already toss money at electronic vapour wear with champions online, so hard pass on and online D&D shortcut. I ran a few games with this new generation who do everything online at that site. They are not learning anything about how to build or play a character, or what they can and can't do besides what it tells them they can. I use online tools to help me in a pinch or to write up encounters and all parts of being a DM, but i also have read every book and make characters with a sheet and a pencil, because when you do this you read and learn. Whereas on this you just check boxes and it fills it in for you, i get it takes the work out of it for the player but does it really. I remember as a player pouring over book after book looking up this ability and that spells and skills and feats and so one to make the right combination. This is what made me great at knowing how the classes worked and what powers did and after a time i didn't have to look them up all the time. But the main issue is distraction, they constantly look at their phone not listening or contributing to the game. I honestly feel that D&D has lost its magic of what it was, a group of people who didn't fit in and could come together for a night and forget all the reality of this world and become something from their imagination. They could face a high risk of danger and death each sharing the experience together around a table with bags of chips soda or whatever snakes they like. spilt pop and the smell of pizza or whatever bill got at the quick run to the convenience store that day. Playing until ted passed out because he was weak sauce and could hang until the end of the dungeon of death, i miss those days of my youth and what D&D stood for. It has always been about the game and having fun and was never about the real world or who you were in it, and i have seen this game fractured so many times and greed and money being the focus. Any way I have decided to never buy a single D&D product again, i have my older books and a few second or third-party ones that are far better and have much more support and content than this does now. I wish them good luck but for me and suspect many more this is not my D&D anymore, it is just a business about selling the idea but with no substance. [/QUOTE]
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