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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 8854835" data-attributes="member: 8461">The topic under discussion was which products specifically were returned in such large degrees that it ultimately brought TSR down. That they had a bad deal going with Random House to begin with isn't in dispute. What's in dispute was whether or not the novel side of things were returned in such quantities that it hastened TSR's demise (which is false).I'm not sure if it was Gary Gygax who specifically worked out that deal, or if it was Brian and/or Kevin Blume.Factoring was also a major part of what did them in, as Ben Riggs pointed out in Slaying the Dragon. That was where TSR essentially took out a loan against a forthcoming year's products from a bank, getting something like 83% of the total annual revenue all at once. But that locked them in for the entire year, allowing for no flexibility in their schedule.</blockquote>