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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 4919652" data-attributes="member: 996">True.  Which is a strong argument /for/ leaving things like Magic Circle or Anti-Magic Shell or whatever in the game.  The DM can screw any player just as hard as he likes, with or without the inclusion of some ritual or other.  So, why exclude some classic spell out of fear some DM might 'abuse' it?  Game balance is on the player end.  It keeps the PCs relatively equal in the spotlight, and able to participate meaningfully in the same challenge.  Game balance isn't an issue for the DM, he can imbalance the game just as much as he likes on a whim.A more cogent consideration is the role played by the spell in the past vs what it would be good for, now.  In prior eds, magic was extremely powerful, arbitrary, and vital to virtually all characters (if not thier own spells, then thier magic items).  Whipping out an anti-magic shell would defeat magic in a pyrric way, since yours was also negated.  In 4e, magic is part of the treadmill, but you can always compensate if you don't want to include as much of it, and PC magical powers are not substantially more potent than non-magical ones (more versatile, perhaps).  Losing magic, for any character who doesen't posess magical powers, himself, is not devestating, and cancelling enemy magic may often not be that great an advantage.Thus, something like the old Anti-Magic Shell would be less powerful, and more situational, than it was in the past.  A character able to use it would forfiet virtually all of his powers for doing so, and would not negate that great a portion of that many monster's powers.  In some situations, it might be great, but probably not in most encouters.  A high-level daily wizard utility version might be perfectly reasonable.  To prevent abuse, a preq like "You must be a single-class Wizard," might be a good idea, that way a Martial McWizard couldn't swap it in and use it to hose magical threats.As a more general anti-(insert source) ritual, it could be more problematic - but, done carefully, no more so than Magic Circle (which is fairly problematic, IMHO, but that's another thread).</blockquote>

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