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<blockquote data-quote="MoogleEmpMog" data-source="post: 2424518" data-attributes="member: 22882">I fail to see how D&amp;D has ever been Sword &amp; Sorcery, at least since AD&amp;D.&nbsp; Perhaps our definitions of Sword &amp; Sorcery vary; in mine, wizards do not cast fireballs about willy-nilly, nor are their a multitude of spellcasting clerics whose primary function is healing (regardless of what gods they worship), nor are their heaping great piles of magic items, nor are their strongly defined alignments, nor are there a multitude of 'good-aligned' non-humans, nor, for that matter, are there orcs.D&amp;D has a few Sword &amp; Sorcery themes, but a lot more High Fantasy ones.I like Sword &amp; Sorcery a great deal; RPGs, such as Mongoose's OGL Conan, that try to get away from &quot;D&amp;D&quot; and High Fantasy, hold great appeal for me.If a world is going to be veritably dripping with magic (as ANY D&amp;D world is, going back at least as far as Greyhawk and the Realms), I'd certainly rather it be a halfway logical magical world, and I'd rather it have alleged sci-fi tropes than High Fantasy ones.&nbsp; Neither is in any way Sword &amp; Sorcery.Indeed, since most of the great Sword &amp; Sorcery writers were either dead, retired or near the end of their careers when people presently in their 30s and 40s were &quot;growing up,&quot; and High Fantasy was very much in vogue, I wonder if the terms aren't being confused here.&nbsp; They are not the same and have no more to do with one another than Science Fiction has with either of them; indeed, thematically, I'd say Sci-Fi probably sits between the two.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MoogleEmpMog, post: 2424518, member: 22882"] I fail to see how D&D has ever been Sword & Sorcery, at least since AD&D. Perhaps our definitions of Sword & Sorcery vary; in mine, wizards do not cast fireballs about willy-nilly, nor are their a multitude of spellcasting clerics whose primary function is healing (regardless of what gods they worship), nor are their heaping great piles of magic items, nor are their strongly defined alignments, nor are there a multitude of 'good-aligned' non-humans, nor, for that matter, are there orcs. D&D has a few Sword & Sorcery themes, but a lot more High Fantasy ones. I like Sword & Sorcery a great deal; RPGs, such as Mongoose's OGL Conan, that try to get away from "D&D" and High Fantasy, hold great appeal for me. If a world is going to be veritably dripping with magic (as ANY D&D world is, going back at least as far as Greyhawk and the Realms), I'd certainly rather it be a halfway logical magical world, and I'd rather it have alleged sci-fi tropes than High Fantasy ones. Neither is in any way Sword & Sorcery. Indeed, since most of the great Sword & Sorcery writers were either dead, retired or near the end of their careers when people presently in their 30s and 40s were "growing up," and High Fantasy was very much in vogue, I wonder if the terms aren't being confused here. They are not the same and have no more to do with one another than Science Fiction has with either of them; indeed, thematically, I'd say Sci-Fi probably sits between the two. [/QUOTE]

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