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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dave Turner" data-source="post: 2428750" data-attributes="member: 12329">The kalashtar weren't insular enough it seems, since there are no racial restrictions in Eberron regarding the use of psionics.  Even the warforged are allowed to have psionic class levels (and idea which Keith admits in the Ask Keith Baker FAQ).  As I mentioned in my previous post, it isn't necessary that every non-kalashtar psion in Eberron have a kalashtar trainer.  The first generation of non-kalashtar would go on to train other non-kalashtar and things would just naturally spread from there.  This would be a considerable number of individuals in three centuries, or even two centuries if you allow for one century for the kalashtar to overcome their insular natures.Further, there is no requirement that a mind seed target has to be psionic to be affected by the power.  It works on barbarians and experts the same way it works on psions.  If the kalashtar were worried about Quori mind seeds, why not educate the humans around them about what mind seeds are and try to awaken more psionic potential so that people might learn psionic defenses to psionic attack?  If you're worried about hidden concentrations of kalashtar being exposed to Quori spies, then I'm sure that there were other concentrations of kalashtar aside from psionic monasterys.  Any human, whether they were learning psionics or not, who knew of the existence of kalashtar and knew where some kalashtar settlements were was a potential Quori mind seed target.  I don't see a plausible reason why kalashtar would use the fear of discovery by Quori to avoid teaching psionics to Sarlonans.Even if we grant the dubious assumption that the Quori perfectly eradicated all psionic opposition without a single psionic individual escaping the continent during the second emigration, the kalashtar would have known that the thing that Quori fear the most is psioncis.  The kalashtar are quori as well, after all.  The humans probably outnumbered the kalashtar, so are we to assume that kalashtar chose not to train humans (a source of willing, capable, and numerous allies) in the techniques best suited to defeat the Inspired invaders because they were too insular?  The kalashtar would have preferred to die at the hands of the Inspired rather than share their secrets with people who could save them?Again, claims about "Quori subtlety" in halting the spread of psionics from Khorvaire assume that the Inspired were able to exercise a godlike level of control over the movements of an entire continent's worth of people.  Let's assume that the kalashtar didn't train a single human in psionics in the three centuries prior to the arrival of the Inspired.  Did the Inspired invaders kill or convert every psionic kalashtar on the entire continent, such that none of them escaped to Khorvaire during the second migration?  I understand that this is a fantasy world and that Eberron features things like a cataclysm that wiped out a entire nation in a single day.  Did the Inspired enact some kind of psionic super-ritual that instantly and simultaneously killed or converted every psionic kalashtar during the Quori invasion?  It's possible, but it hasn't been mentioned to date and such an explanation would reek of the kind of metagame thinking that bothers me.There are things that psionics can do more easily than magic.  A seer 3 is a better detective than wizards and sorcers of much higher levels, thanks to Sensitivity to Psychic Impressions and Object Reading.  Tongues is gained at 3rd level for psions, not 5th level.  True Seeing is gained at 9th level instead of 11th for arcane casters.  7th level telepaths can use schism to manifest two powers per turn, a feat which arcane casters can't match to my knowledge.  Energy Missile is a 2nd level power which can deliver 15d6 worth of total damage spread across five enemies with no danger of hitting your allies in battle.  There's a lot that psionics can do better than arcane or divine magic.Psions are the ultimate subtle casters.  With a successful Concentration check, they can manifest a power with no outward display of any kind.  They don't need to pick up feats like Still Spell or Silent Spell and play the wizard's guessing game of what spells they should use the metamagic on (at a +2 spell slot penalty).  Psions have no power point penalty for this.  They are ideal spies, diplomats, and assassins.If anything, the cultures of Eberron would have to aggressively pursue psionics to protect themselves.  It's a classic arms race, where you have to develop psionics to defend yourself from your psionic opponents.  It's not required that psionics would fill every role that magic fills on Khorvaire.  All that is required is the possibility that psionics would have some unique roles to play and the  rest would take care of itself.  Psionics is different enough from arcane and divine magic to have those unique roles and, following the central idea in Eberron that cultures extract the most practical use from a source of power/energy that they can, it should have a prominent place in Khorvaire.</blockquote>

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