Well, Haven isn't d20, d20/OGL, OGL, or open in any sense iirc.johnsemlak said:Also, with new OGL RPGs coming out which are not d20 compatible (I'm not talking about M&M or Arcana Unearthed, which are d20-compatible; I'm talking about things like Gold Rush Games' Action System), the whole D&D/d20/OGL definition is going to get increasingly blurred, IMHO.