Broccli_Head
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I thought last night's episode didnt' really go anywhere.
Did like MA calling Attia a Harpy
Did like MA calling Attia a Harpy
HBO's ROME
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I liked last night's episode, and enjoyed where it went:
1. Marc Antony is shown even more clearly for who he is.
2. Vorenus and his wife come to a point of peace, important for when he heads off to war again.
3. Octavian is torn from his intellectual paradise.
4. Pullo is shown to be considerably more clever than I would have expected... perhaps he got the idea from Octavian, or perhaps Octavian just rubbed off on him.
5. Pompey turns out to have been in a much better position than it seemed, somehow re-amassing power while running around Greece without much money.
6. Julius Caesar's remaining force in Rome (or at least the bulk of it) leave the city entirely, opening up the future a great deal.
Felt like a standard episode to me, anyway. Though with extra penis.
1. Marc Antony is shown even more clearly for who he is.
2. Vorenus and his wife come to a point of peace, important for when he heads off to war again.
3. Octavian is torn from his intellectual paradise.
4. Pullo is shown to be considerably more clever than I would have expected... perhaps he got the idea from Octavian, or perhaps Octavian just rubbed off on him.
5. Pompey turns out to have been in a much better position than it seemed, somehow re-amassing power while running around Greece without much money.
6. Julius Caesar's remaining force in Rome (or at least the bulk of it) leave the city entirely, opening up the future a great deal.
Felt like a standard episode to me, anyway. Though with extra penis.
Broccli_Head
Explorer
Fast Learner said:
LOL...there was that.
So as far as history goes..Caesar was beaten at Dyrrhachium...
"Moving north towards Dyrrhachium, he discovered Pompey entrenched there with an army of 45,000. Pompey saw no reason to risk a battle, since his fleet controlled the Adriatic, and Caesar's troops went hungry in the spring of 48, although eventually reinforcements arrived with Mark Antony.
Finally Caesar had to do something, so he tried to surround Pompey in Dyrrhachium and squeeze him. But Pompey was able to cave in the left of Caesar's line, Caesar lost 1,000 of his veterans in the fighting, and decided to leave the field to Pompey and content himself with being able to leave the field at all." --Wikipedia
So i guess we are at the "reinforcements from Antony" part. Im scarded though. Says that C. lost 1K of his veterans...Pullo and/or Voreanus?
Of course Pompey not pursuing his victory lead to C. being able to regroup for Pharsalus...
Broccli_Head said:
Well, it looks like Pullo and Vorenus end up shipwrecked, judging by the previews of the next episode... And while historically, Ceasar's supposed to lose the upcoming battle, the writers have already played fast and loose with history a lot - in reality, years passed between the death of Pompey's wife / Ceasar's daughter and the civil war, but in the series it all seems to happen in a matter of months.
Mark CMG
Creative Mountain Games
mmu1 said:
That seems an overstatement in light of the one example, which may or may not be the case. They really don't discuss the timeline a great deal, except in relation to when MA was holding the Winter-to-Spring knife to the throat of the old guard ("No threat. Snows always melt . . ."
). Bringing a single incident forward in time to more dramatically set up the deteriorating political ties between C and P is hardly something that can be characterized as "fast and loose". 
Fast Learner
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Agreed, I don't consider time compression to be much of a change at all, especially for dramatic purposes.
LightPhoenix
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I don't think it's a matter of playing with the timeline, I think it's a matter of them ignoring the passage of time as a barrier to things happening. Since they mostly avoid talking about time, those who know the timeline can apply it, and those who do not can ignore it. Either way it keeps the show moving.
Octavia and Pullo were the stand-outs this episode. Especially Octavia, I don't know why but she was just great, IMO.
Octavia and Pullo were the stand-outs this episode. Especially Octavia, I don't know why but she was just great, IMO.
Mark CMG said:That seems an overstatement in light of the one example, which may or may not be the case. They really don't discuss the timeline a great deal, except in relation to when MA was holding the Winter-to-Spring knife to the throat of the old guard ("No threat. Snows always melt . . ."
Pompey's wife died in 54BC, much of the political maneuvering we've seen occurred ~51-52BC, the civil war started in 49BC with the crossing of the Rubicon, and, IIRC, Octavian was only 18 or so when Ceasar was killed in 44BC.
Don't get me wrong, I love the show, but that's hardly "bringing one incident forward in time".
Broccli_Head
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In between episode 5 and 6 two months have passed. Niobe says as much in relation to how long her sister has been staying with them and Evander's disappearence...
Loved Pullo's "I made some inquires..."
Loved Pullo's "I made some inquires..."
