HBO's ROME

[mmu1]

So much for Vorenus' high ideals.

Yeah... I mean, the guy decided to throw in with Ceasar, when all he had to do was say no, thank you, I don't want to be a magistrate, there's an armed mob waiting to kill me and my friend, and rape my wife that I need to get back to.

Not that I was talking about his ideals, anyway - I was talking about his sense of loyalty.

 

[Mark CMG]

"First, I will make you run."

Well, of course, now I cannot wait for the next season.

 

[satori01]

Vorenus will survive, I am almost sure of it, he has to in order to pull off the eventual tough choice of staying true to his word of being loyal to Anthony "unto death", or supporting Octavian.

I loved the final scene with Sevalia, and how they framed the shot so that Octavian is framed in the background the whole time. Kinda brings home that whole power is fleeting morale doesnt it

 

[ShinHakkaider]

"First, I will make you run."

Well, of course, now I cannot wait for the next season.

And long wait it will be. Rome returns sometime in 2007.

 

[Azlan]

The Arena fight would have been more impressive in a true arena, but it was nasty and gritty all the same.

IIRC... During the time of Julius Caeser, the grand "true" arena (as depicted in the movie Gladiator) hasn't been built yet. So, the producers were being historically accurate (as well as budget saving), by showing the gladiator fights in such a lesser arena.

 

[Azlan]

Vorenus will survive, I am almost sure of it, he has to in order to pull off the eventual tough choice of staying true to his word of being loyal to Anthony "unto death", or supporting Octavian.

Vorenus will not have to make that choice between the two... at first.

Mark Anthony and young Gaius Octavian will be teaming up, at first, to exact their great revenge on the murderers of, and the plotters against, Julius Caeser. Afterward, the two will split the Roman Empire between them. Octavian will even give his sister, Octavia, in marriage to Anthony.

It's years later, when Anthony goes to Egypt and has an affair with Cleopatra, that Octavian gets pissed off and the two men start battling.

All of this, of course, is according to history.

 

[Broccli_Head]

Vorenus will not have to make that choice between the two... at first.

Mark Anthony and young Gaius Octavian will be teaming up, at first, to exact their great revenge on the murderers of, and the plotters against, Julius Caeser. Afterward, the two will split the Roman Empire between them. Octavian will even give his sister, Octavia, in marriage to Anthony.

It's years later, when Anthony goes to Egypt and has an affair with Cleopatra, that Octavian gets pissed off and the two men start battling.

All of this, of course, is according to history.

Actually...Antony and Octavian fight it out at first at Mutina, then ally against the conspirators forming the Triumvarate, then fight it out again.

long historical quote..

The situation was now highly volatile. Decimus Brutus, backed by the senate, was resisting Antony under arms, and retired to the fortified town of Mutina in Cisalpine Gaul. Antony had four legions, Octavian had five. All the armed parties were mutually antagonistic. The senate, led by Cicero in his last great political action, identified Antony as the greater threat. [[14]] Cicero and Antony were now on opposing sides, following an acrimonious oratorical exchange in the senate that started in September 44 BC. At this crucial juncture, then, Cicero deployed his considerable rhetorical skill to Octavian's benefit and began to champion his cause as a foil to Antony's power. As a result, on 1 January, 43 BC Octavian's essentially illegal command of men under arms was legitimized with a grant of propraetorian power. As such, Octavian continued his preparations to attack Antony, now declared a public enemy, who had begun besieging Decimus Brutus at Mutina. Octavian, now an official representative of the republic, led his force into the region and moved against Antony. [[15]]

In two engagements in April, Antony was bested and fled over the Alps to his political allies in Transalpine Gaul. Both consuls for 43 BC, however, perished in the fighting around Mutina, and Octavian, as the senior commander on the spot, refused to cooperate any further with Decimus Brutus, a murderer of his father. The senators, it appears, hoped that Octavian would now go away. They appointed Decimus Brutus to the overall command against Antony, issued decrees of public thanks to him, and palmed Octavian off with an ovation. When a commission to distribute land to veterans was set up, Octavian was pointedly omitted. Smarting at such insulting treatment, Octavian bided his time and put in requests for a consulship (with Cicero as his colleague) and a triumph. Meanwhile, Antony was preparing to return to Cisalpine Gaul with enormous forces gained from Caesarian commanders in Transalpine Gaul. The situation remained unstable.[[16]]

 

[Shag]

Great Episode and great series!!!


Only thing that bugged me was that Octavian isn't even supposed to be in Rome at all.
The only question I have is: Where is Marcus Agrippa in all this?? He is Octavians right hand man for almost his entire life. They can't just omit him, can they?

 

[Fast Learner]

Great ending! Really sucks to lose Niobe, though. Poor Vorenus.

 

[Steel_Wind]

For the most part, I think TV is an absolute wasteland.

A few series - BSG, and *maybe* 24 are watchable if not very good (in the case of BSG), but for the most part it is complete drivel.

And then every now and then - series like Band of Brothers or Rome come along - and remind you just how good the medium can be.

It's like like Lord of the Rings at the cinema. They charge you the same admission price to ROTK as they did for a turd of a movie like Alone in the Dark. One reminds you just how good the movies can be when Hollywood is bothered to try; the other just how bad a motion picture can be when people go through the motions.

A long wait until MA and Octavian wreak vengeance upon the murderers of Caesar.

"First, I will make you run."

(And Second - *bitch* - the boy you ignored on the left will grind your family into the dirt beneath his sandals).

So - all of this because Pullo had some gambling debts and Seblilia had a few naughty pictures of her painted on the wall.