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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chimera" data-source="post: 4947143" data-attributes="member: 2002">I've been playing D&D since the very early days (starting with the white box set), but I'm a bit poor at the moment and don't have all the 4e books and errata at the moment.I have some questions about healing.Of the four Leader classes in the PHB and PHB2, three of them list 'Healing Surge + nd6'.  Only one, the Bard, lists "+ charisma modifier".  None of these powers are implement powers.And yet, the Restful Healing feat in the PHB uses a Cleric as it's example and specifically mentions the Wisdom bonus.That and in one of my games, the Cleric is adding really sick bonuses to his surges.  So high that I have no freaking clue what combination of bonuses, feats and what have you could possibly come to a bonus slightly higher than our current (low teens) level.  Maybe he's cheating, maybe he's adding stuff he shouldn't be, maybe he has a whole bunch of stuff I've never heard of.  I've asked, but he didn't answer.SO:Do attribute bonuses count towards the healing powers?Do implements and/or implement expertise count toward these powers?Are there feats to allow them to do so in books other than the two PHBs?For the Shaman, their healing is split between two targets.  If the attribute bonus counts, does it count toward both?  (In other words, Surge + A to first target, nd6+A to second)Now, I'm playing a 1st level Shaman in a game, so that last one is important to me.  I'd then like to know how it works with Spirit Shield.My Shaman, +6 to hit against Reflex (+4 wis, +1 implement, +1 expertise)Wis damage to target (6).  Heal one target by Wis bonus.  So 4, or 6? (which would be 7 or 9 if they're next to my Spirit, as my character has a 16 Con).</blockquote>

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