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<blockquote data-quote="mneme" data-source="post: 4959918" data-attributes="member: 59248"><p>You mean, like an Avenger?</p><p></p><p>I think, looking at the attributes, a Barbarian that's not investing in Dex (or Int) -should- upgrade to heavy armor (particularly a Rageblood) by Paragon levels.</p><p></p><p>A better alternative (from <a href="http://www.wizards.com/DnD/Article.aspx?x=dnd/4ex/20091009" target="_blank">Dungeons & Dragons Roleplaying Game Official Home Page - Article (Excerpts: Primal Power Feats)</a> ) for Rageblood barbarians is the upcoming Hide Armor Expertise -- which lets any Primal with at least a 15 Con and Hide prof. character use Con instead of Dex/Int when wearing hide.</p><p></p><p>Thaneborn, OTOH, are probably best starting with a 12 con, and letting it upgrade to 13 and grabbing Chain (and probably Scale) proficiency (or maybe even starting with a 13 con and figuring on getting plate and plate spec by epic levels).</p><p></p><p>Because, well, yes, you can take a few hits against AC at heroic levels. But as it is, you lose a point (of overall defenses) at paragon, and another point at epic, on top of your frontloaded points (and fundamentally, the AC points are more valuable. Who cares if you've got a bit more resilience against Reflex attacks than average when functionally, both your AC and your Reflex are terrible?)</p><p></p><p>It does look like they're making a good show at fixing the bear shaman and thaneborn barbarian, who downright resilient if you let them use con->AC with one feat.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mneme, post: 4959918, member: 59248"] You mean, like an Avenger? I think, looking at the attributes, a Barbarian that's not investing in Dex (or Int) -should- upgrade to heavy armor (particularly a Rageblood) by Paragon levels. A better alternative (from [url=http://www.wizards.com/DnD/Article.aspx?x=dnd/4ex/20091009]Dungeons & Dragons Roleplaying Game Official Home Page - Article (Excerpts: Primal Power Feats)[/url] ) for Rageblood barbarians is the upcoming Hide Armor Expertise -- which lets any Primal with at least a 15 Con and Hide prof. character use Con instead of Dex/Int when wearing hide. Thaneborn, OTOH, are probably best starting with a 12 con, and letting it upgrade to 13 and grabbing Chain (and probably Scale) proficiency (or maybe even starting with a 13 con and figuring on getting plate and plate spec by epic levels). Because, well, yes, you can take a few hits against AC at heroic levels. But as it is, you lose a point (of overall defenses) at paragon, and another point at epic, on top of your frontloaded points (and fundamentally, the AC points are more valuable. Who cares if you've got a bit more resilience against Reflex attacks than average when functionally, both your AC and your Reflex are terrible?) It does look like they're making a good show at fixing the bear shaman and thaneborn barbarian, who downright resilient if you let them use con->AC with one feat. [/QUOTE]
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