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<blockquote data-quote="relytdan" data-source="post: 6195121" data-attributes="member: 6750511"><p>Greetings. I am asking for the help of the folks here to create a character that by RAW is legal yet would be considered very &quot;Cheesey&quot;; Books allowed all but dragon magazines IE: DM#313; No Gestalt, level buyback or more than 2 flaws, but the complete arcana variant classes &amp; bloodlines are allowed; no 3rd party materials; must be level 20. things the character should have. 32 point buy for abilities;&nbsp; a superior Race/Templates within the guidelines of the books above are allowed; BAB at least 16+, Saves as high as possible in all 3 areas, no reliance on any other party members or items, limited class dipping and multiclass penalties; Things the character should be able to do Cast if needed, Disable traps if needed, Melee combat if needed. - while there are a couple classes that do these 3 things some do not do them well and the goal here is to get the things the character should have as well as be extreamly good in the 3 areas mentioned hense &quot; CHEESEY &quot; looking for the most possible RAW Cheese build possible within the above areas. (( now you are probably asking why)- it is the intent here to kill anything the DM tosses at the party as the party is tired of dieing to bs monsters that are way over the cr of the group, - now you might say talk it over with dm - it has been and so the group has decided that we will all use characters that do 3 things extreamly well and overlap with what at least 2 other party members are also doing - this is intended to teach the DM a lesson in using monsters appropriate to the CR of the group) - I look forward to ideas presented here - Thankyou</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="relytdan, post: 6195121, member: 6750511"] Greetings. I am asking for the help of the folks here to create a character that by RAW is legal yet would be considered very "Cheesey"; Books allowed all but dragon magazines IE: DM#313; No Gestalt, level buyback or more than 2 flaws, but the complete arcana variant classes & bloodlines are allowed; no 3rd party materials; must be level 20. things the character should have. 32 point buy for abilities; a superior Race/Templates within the guidelines of the books above are allowed; BAB at least 16+, Saves as high as possible in all 3 areas, no reliance on any other party members or items, limited class dipping and multiclass penalties; Things the character should be able to do Cast if needed, Disable traps if needed, Melee combat if needed. - while there are a couple classes that do these 3 things some do not do them well and the goal here is to get the things the character should have as well as be extreamly good in the 3 areas mentioned hense " CHEESEY " looking for the most possible RAW Cheese build possible within the above areas. (( now you are probably asking why)- it is the intent here to kill anything the DM tosses at the party as the party is tired of dieing to bs monsters that are way over the cr of the group, - now you might say talk it over with dm - it has been and so the group has decided that we will all use characters that do 3 things extreamly well and overlap with what at least 2 other party members are also doing - this is intended to teach the DM a lesson in using monsters appropriate to the CR of the group) - I look forward to ideas presented here - Thankyou [/QUOTE]

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