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Help me choose a pet...

I have a Senegal parrot, and while she's fun sometimes she can be a lot of work, and the type of affection she shows isn't the same as a dog. I'm in a similar boat as you. My parents had a wonderful dog that died when I was in college, and I missed him terribly when I got an apartment of my own. Wanting to get a pet to replace him, I got Soki, but it's just not the same.

Do NOT get a cockatoo or an african grey unless you plan to spend all day with the bird. I'm not kidding. You must be unemployed or have a stay-at-home job in order to keep one of these birds happy. They require constant attention, the cockatoo because they're extremely social and the african grey because they're super-smart and get bored and neurotic easily.

When you find yourself leaning towards one pet or another, do plenty of research before you actually take the leap and get the pet. Take things like lifespan into account. If you're like me and see yourself living in an apartment for only a few more years, maybe it's better to wait and get the pet you really want (a dog) when you move out. If you get a parrot that can live 50 or 80 years then you're stuck with that parrot even when your apartment turns into a house, and you now have to take that existing pet into account if you want to get a dog. How will the dog react to it, and it to the dog? Will you have time for both pets?

As far as Senegal parrots, are concerned, here are my experiences with Soki (YMMV with other parrot species and even other Senegals):

PROS:
* Lots of interesting sounds and talking. Soki's not even two, and she can say "hi", "whee", blow raspberries, make kissing sounds, and laugh.
* A lot of personality. She seems to know when things are funny and laughs at the right moments. It's very amusing to watch her play with her toys.
* Her sounds are not as loud as other parrots. Whenever I go into the bird store where I got her I'm grateful that she doesn't get as loud as some of the other birds there.
* She's not as messy as some birds.
* Doesn't require much space. The cage I have for her is about 4'x2' and 4' tall (more like 6' when it's on the stand). I also have a playstand of similar size in the living room so she can be in there when we are.
* Shows affection when she wants. She's certainly attached to me.

CONS:
* She can get territorial around her cage if I don't change it around regularly. She'll bite if strangers (and even me, if I leave the cage for a very long time) get too close to her stuff.
* She always wants attention, and will sometimes scream for hours if left alone. We're slowly getting her out of this habit with training, though (we think). She can be heard outside the apartment when she screams, but having had her there for over a year I've yet to hear any complaints from neighbors, so either they don't hear or it's not very annoying to them.
* If her claws aren't clipped regularly it becomes uncomfortable to have her on your hand and you end up looking like you have a kitten. Clipping is stressful for her if I get a professional to do it, and stressful for me because there's a vein in the nail and I know if I cut it she can bleed to death very quickly.
* She makes a mess when she eats and gets food on the floor all around her cage, which we then track all over the house.
* She loves to chew on electrical wires, clothing, earrings, and other undesirables
* She's friendly with only me. She tolerates my live-in boyfriend and is only sometimes friendly with him. Everyone else she switches between polite, angry, and frightened. One day she'll let my dad scratch her, the next day she'll bite him if he puts his finger in range.
* It's harder to read her body language than a dog. You have to learn how she acts when she's frightened, angry, happy, etc.
* She has to have new toys and things to destroy put in her cage regularly or she gets bored and tends to scream for attention more often.
* Birds hide their illnesses very well. You could have one die on you before you realize it's sick, so you have to watch them very carefully. Oh, and if you want to be a responsible pet owner you should get rid of all of your teflon pans. Accidentally burning some of the teflon because of high heat or leaving things on the stove too long can kill a bird in minutes.
 
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Umbran said:
A couple notes:
Indoor cats live fine, happy lives. Humans have some romantic notions that cats need to go outside in order to be happy, and that's just not true. Your cat would not be "cooped up".

The average lifespan of an outdoor cat in the US is approximately three years. The average lifespan of an indoor cat is, if I recall correctly, at least three times that. So, in terms of long and happy life, the indoor guy wins, hands down.

I have 2 Indoor cats, both still have claws to defend against stupid people. One of them got outside once, looked around and decided he liked it better inside. They have the run of the house, destroy nothing (of course the one cat hates things sitting on tables and will boot them to the floor). I seriously HATE cats normally. My one cat annoys me to no end. I got him for my wife and he is aloof and unfriendly to every male he meets. The other is the sweetheart, everyone loves her, she loves to cuddle and loves people. Her greatest desire is to stay near people.

Indoor cats from what I know tend to live 14-20 years. Outdoor cats 2-3.
 
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Umbran said:
And note that there are a whole lot of things you can do to change the animal's behavior before you try declawing. I would prefer to see a cat declawed than euthanized, but I favor a whole lot of effort in behavior modification first. When many furniture clawing problems can be solved with spritz bottles, pepper, or double-sided tape, declawing is a long way off.

Good heavens, never de-claw a cat. Aside from remove its primary means of defending itself, it's cruel, inhumane, barbaric and unecessary mutilation. It's major surgery that's roughly equivalent to amuptating the tips of your fingers at the first joint in order to save yourslef the trouble of clipping your fingernails.

As Umbran said, there's a lot better ways of salving cat-scratching problems. We've had our cat for almost three years, and he never sharpens his claws on anything other than the carpet (though he knows he's not really supposed to), a little strip of carpet hanging froma door knob (which we put there for that specific purpose), and our poor dog's nose (granted, she usually asks for it).
 

Pbartender said:
Good heavens, never de-claw a cat. Aside from remove its primary means of defending itself, it's cruel, inhumane, barbaric and unecessary mutilation. It's major surgery that's roughly equivalent to amuptating the tips of your fingers at the first joint in order to save yourslef the trouble of clipping your fingernails.

As Umbran said, there's a lot better ways of salving cat-scratching problems. We've had our cat for almost three years, and he never sharpens his claws on anything other than the carpet (though he knows he's not really supposed to), a little strip of carpet hanging froma door knob (which we put there for that specific purpose), and our poor dog's nose (granted, she usually asks for it).

Truth be told, I'm not disagreeing with you. My sister's cat was declawed by her previous owner. Personally, I figure if you get a cat, don't expect your furniture to be in pristine condition and if you get a dog, expect things to get chewed up, especially when they are little and still learning. Lol.

Our dog has a sock fetish. I swear. If it's laying on the ground, it's fair game for being a chew toy. ;)
 

Somebody once told me about a declawed cat that learned how to box. The thing would whap you with its paws, and it would actually hurt!
 

A fuzzy, cuddly tarantula?...or maybe a small, cute bat?...A buddy of mine had a bat..it rode around in his shirt pocket and he fed it strawberries and crickets.
 




Merkuri said:
Somebody once told me about a declawed cat that learned how to box. The thing would whap you with its paws, and it would actually hurt!
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(I think that's a "fake". Still funny.)

As for the OP, I suggest a budgerigar. I encountered several as a kid and they tend to be social and reasonably intelligent pets. They have most of the advanatges of a large parrot and few of the drawbacks. Budgies can benefit a lot from good training, so read about it, get a young bird, and spend some time training it. (I'd try to "potty train" it. Bird walking around in your hair, chittering away - charming. Bird shitting in your hair - not so charming.) Get a male if you can, since according to wikipedia males are more likely to "speak" and less likely to chew on things. If you want a "talking parrot" there's no guarantee though. My sister's budgie could mimic a few sounds, but it was just nonsense dropped into its "happy chitter", not the "Polly wants a cracker" kind of talking.
 

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