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<blockquote data-quote="Aservan" data-source="post: 4405305" data-attributes="member: 63340"><p>Look I am not trying to offend anyone. I said "... by the numbers Warlock is the worst striker..."</p><p></p><p>I don't see how that is anything but an objective opinion. The same things that everyone posts here. I am not saying "Warlock's suck" they can help the party (sometimes) and they are certainly fun to play at times. For me those times are the out of combat times. I would just like to have more fun in the in-combat times as well.</p><p></p><p>I don't want to imply that other people can't have fun with a warlock. I am certain they can. I also don't think there is one way to play a game. I will say that I think some ways are bad though.</p><p></p><p>Playing like a jerk is bad in my book. Warlock is borderline in that area. When are you just playing your character and when are you playing a character that sucks the life out of the game? The warlock is not the equal choice tactically in the game (at least currently). So by playing one am I sucking the enjoyment out of things for my friends who like to play hard in all phases of the game? None of them have complained to me yet but if they did I would make a new character.</p><p></p><p>To some extent, I agree, numbers are open to interpretation. The numbers themselves do not lie. To say that on average reflex only lags 2 points behind AC is true (to the best of my knowledge). To say then that "Eldritch Blast has an equal chance to hit with a longbow" is also true given my understanding of things. I am not making things up when I say that weapon focus applies to a longbow but not to eldritch blast. You can use far shot on the bow as well but not with EB.</p><p></p><p>Tell me which numbers you want to use. I would love to hear that I am wrong (Really!! I want Warlocks to rock). I base my knowledge off the threads I have read here on EnWorld about monster defenses and the thread on DPR. To my knowledge the math of those posters is correct (I'm an engineer and assuming the base data is correct the math is as well). I am also relating my in game experience from 3 different Campaigns played in and and several one shots DMed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Aservan, post: 4405305, member: 63340"] Look I am not trying to offend anyone. I said "... by the numbers Warlock is the worst striker..." I don't see how that is anything but an objective opinion. The same things that everyone posts here. I am not saying "Warlock's suck" they can help the party (sometimes) and they are certainly fun to play at times. For me those times are the out of combat times. I would just like to have more fun in the in-combat times as well. I don't want to imply that other people can't have fun with a warlock. I am certain they can. I also don't think there is one way to play a game. I will say that I think some ways are bad though. Playing like a jerk is bad in my book. Warlock is borderline in that area. When are you just playing your character and when are you playing a character that sucks the life out of the game? The warlock is not the equal choice tactically in the game (at least currently). So by playing one am I sucking the enjoyment out of things for my friends who like to play hard in all phases of the game? None of them have complained to me yet but if they did I would make a new character. To some extent, I agree, numbers are open to interpretation. The numbers themselves do not lie. To say that on average reflex only lags 2 points behind AC is true (to the best of my knowledge). To say then that "Eldritch Blast has an equal chance to hit with a longbow" is also true given my understanding of things. I am not making things up when I say that weapon focus applies to a longbow but not to eldritch blast. You can use far shot on the bow as well but not with EB. Tell me which numbers you want to use. I would love to hear that I am wrong (Really!! I want Warlocks to rock). I base my knowledge off the threads I have read here on EnWorld about monster defenses and the thread on DPR. To my knowledge the math of those posters is correct (I'm an engineer and assuming the base data is correct the math is as well). I am also relating my in game experience from 3 different Campaigns played in and and several one shots DMed. [/QUOTE]
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