Pielorinho
Iron Fist of Pelor
(I had to rework the title several times so it didn't sound dirty)
I've read the feat a couple of times, and it mentions cool things a dragon can do when snatching an opponent significantly smaller than itself. What I'm wondering applies to a size large dragon fighting size medium creatures. Specifically:
1) Can it move while engaging in a snatch-induced grapple?
2) Can it fling an opponent while engaging in a snatch-induced grapple?
It looks like the answer to #2 is yes, but this seems problematic: as written, a size large adult black dragon could grapple a size huge cloud giant and fling the giant 60'. This don't sound right to me. Granted, the giant gets a +26 on its grapple check compared to the dragon's +24, so the giant will on average win the grapple check -- but fairly often, the dragon will end up throwing a 5,000 lb giant, when by the rules it shouldn't be able to lift more than 1,200 lbs.
Can someone explain what a large dragon can do, snatchwise, to a medium creature?
Thanks!
Daniel
PS. Here's the feat from the SRD:
I've read the feat a couple of times, and it mentions cool things a dragon can do when snatching an opponent significantly smaller than itself. What I'm wondering applies to a size large dragon fighting size medium creatures. Specifically:
1) Can it move while engaging in a snatch-induced grapple?
2) Can it fling an opponent while engaging in a snatch-induced grapple?
It looks like the answer to #2 is yes, but this seems problematic: as written, a size large adult black dragon could grapple a size huge cloud giant and fling the giant 60'. This don't sound right to me. Granted, the giant gets a +26 on its grapple check compared to the dragon's +24, so the giant will on average win the grapple check -- but fairly often, the dragon will end up throwing a 5,000 lb giant, when by the rules it shouldn't be able to lift more than 1,200 lbs.
Can someone explain what a large dragon can do, snatchwise, to a medium creature?
Thanks!
Daniel
PS. Here's the feat from the SRD:
Snatch: A dragon that hits with a claw or bite attack attempts to start a grapple as though it had the improved grab special attack. If the dragon gets a hold with a claw on a creature four or more sizes smaller, it squeezes each round for automatic claw damage. If it gets a hold with its bite on a creature three or more sizes smaller, it automatically deals bite damage each round, or if it does not move and takes no other action in combat, it deals double bite damage to the snatched creature. A snatched creature gets no saving throw against the dragon’s breath weapon. The dragon can drop a creature it has snatched as a free action or use a standard action to fling it aside. A flung creature travels 10 feet, and takes 1d6 points of damage, per age category of the dragon. If the dragon flings it while flying, the creature suffers this amount or falling damage, whichever is greater.