Help with Complete Warrior PrC Prereqs

erian_7 · Jul 2, 2004

A friend has borrowed my copy of the Complete Warrior and I'm trying to recall the prereqs for the Master Thrower and Invisible Blade. Anybody got a copy handy that can post a blurb for both?

Thanks!

Eric

Nifft · Jul 2, 2004

Invis Blade
- Bluff 8, Sense Motive 6, Point Blank Shot, Far Shot, Weapon Focus (dagger, kukri or qatar)
- Must kill someone using only your WFocus weapon

Master Thrower
- BAB +5, Sleight of Hand 5, Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot, WFocus (any thrown weapon)

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erian_7 · Jul 2, 2004

Thanks Nifft!

Eric

shilsen · Jul 3, 2004

IIRC, the creator of the Invisible Blade had posted on the WotC boards saying that the Point Blank Shot and Far Shot prerequisites are in error (makes sense, since the PrC isn't at all focused on ranged use of the dagger) and should be replaced by Weapon Finesse and another feat I can't recall right now (Quick Draw?).

Ottergame · Jul 3, 2004

He suggests changing the feats to Weapon Focus and Weapon Finesse. He says that whe he originaly wrote the article, it was a 10 level prestige class and that the editors at Dragon asked him to include some ranged feats because the 10 level prestige class had abilities that enhanced the range aspect of daggers. When it was edited down to a 5 level class, the ranged abilities were removed (they were nothing special and it didn't really need to be a 10 level class), the prereqs were not changed back.

rowport · Jul 4, 2004

Otter cited this history entirely correctly, as I heard it. That said, I find it highly ironic that the original PrC was edited down to 5 levels eliminating the ranged benefits, only to complement the Master Thrower PrC so well that huge numbers of players are considering adding the ranged benefits back in via MT!