Help with designing a Crusader (Bo9S)

[StreamOfTheSky]

Dandu, do you really think in a game that nerfed spells like Glitterdust that the DM wil allow equally or even more broken splatbook spells as written? Seriously?

No way will Wings of Cover get allowed. Power Word Pain? That should be stricken from the game even in a 3.5 campaign that allows other broken spells! Shivering Touch, aka the Dragon Slayer, is also unlikely to be allowed. As for Magic Missile + Fell Drain and the Enervation spell...I thought you were recommending a Paladin/Sorcerer build? And wouldn't hitting someone twice with Ray of Exhaustion fall under the "multiple spell effects from the same source not stacking" rule?

 

[Dandu]

Dandu, do you really think in a game that nerfed spells like Glitterdust that the DM wil allow equally or even more broken splatbook spells as written? Seriously?

He asked. I answered. If you have a problem with this, feel free to be outraged.

No way will Wings of Cover get allowed. Power Word Pain? That should be stricken from the game even in a 3.5 campaign that allows other broken spells! Shivering Touch, aka the Dragon Slayer, is also unlikely to be allowed.

Muhuhaha!

As for Magic Missile + Fell Drain and the Enervation spell...I thought you were recommending a Paladin/Sorcerer build?

Note, very carefully, that Enervation is not an [Evil] spell, nor is Fell Drain an [Evil] feat. This is because dark is not evil.

And wouldn't hitting someone twice with Ray of Exhaustion fall under the "multiple spell effects from the same source not stacking" rule?

Quite possibly.

 

[StreamOfTheSky]

Warforged Crusader 8 / Warblade 1
Progression: Warblade 2, then Crusader 9-end game
Str 18, Dex 15, Con 16, Int 13, Wis 12, Cha 12
Level 4: Dex --> 16
Level 8: Str --> 19

Class features: Furious Counterstrike (max +3), Steely Resolve 15, Indomitable Soul, Zealous Surge, Smite 1/day, Battle Clarity (Int to Reflex saves, max +1), Weapon Aptitude

Maneuvers (Crusader, 8 known, 5 readied):
1 Vanguard Strike (DS, Strike) -- swap this out at Crusader 10
1 Charging Minotaur (SD, Strike)
2 Foehammer (DS, Strike) or Mountain Hammer (SD, Strike) -- MH if you're getting Stone Power
2 Shield Block (DS, Counter) R
3 White Raven Tactics (WR, Boost) R
3 Revitalizing Strike (DS, Strike) R
4 Divine Surge (DS, Strike) R
4 [Open] -- Nothing stands out to me here, maybe White Raven Strike

Stances (Crusader):
1 Leading the Charge (WR; You and allies w/in 60' gain +8 charge damage)
1 Stonefoot Stance (SD; +2 str checks and AC vs. larger foes)
3 Thicket of Blades (DS; Threatened foes provoke on 5 ft steps and Withdraw) R

Maneuvers (Warblade, 3 known, 3 readied):
1 Douse the Flames (WR, Strike) [if the DM lets you get WRT without this, take something useful]
3 White Raven Tactics (WR, Boost)
3 Iron Heart Surge (IH, Boost(?))

Stance (Warblade):
Punishing Stance (IH; +1d6 melee damage and -2 AC)

Feats:
1 Adaptive Style
3 Combat Reflexes
5 Stand Still
7 Step Up
9 Ironheart Aura
11 Stormguard Warrior
13 open
15 open
17 Defensive Sweep
19 open

Other feat ideas: Improved Buckler Defense, to use a shield for the DS shield maneuvers and also use a 2H reach weapon. Step Up feat, to follow after people who 5 ft step. Backstab feat, to get an AoO anytime someone you're flanking attacks someone other than you. Hold the Line, to get an AoO when someone charges you.

 

[LuckyBoneDice]

I may never say this again, so please note:

I agree with Dandu.

that is, to a degree.

I actually suggest a Cleradin build (cleric+paladin) who uses Paladin's Serenity or Dynamic Priest to go from very MAD to slightly MAD

 

[StreamOfTheSky]

If you're going to do Cleric + martial class, you may as well just go Ruby Knight Vindicator, then, and make a Cleric/Crusader/RKV...

OP, what'd you end up doing?

 

[EroGaki]

If you're going to do Cleric + martial class, you may as well just go Ruby Knight Vindicator, then, and make a Cleric/Crusader/RKV...

OP, what'd you end up doing?

Sadly, nothing. Our game ended up being canceled due to half of the party being involved in Ren Fair.