Help with Evil Underdark Character

[Wrathamon]

I am in an Evil underdark-like campaign, I was playing a karmic strike power attacking Grimlock Ardent 5 / Slayer 4 - Pain & Suffering, Conflict, Freedom, Physical mantles and was working out fantastic... do to storyline and things that happened in the game this character has to be retired.... so I am wondering what to play next.

Giants/Dragons seem to be playing a pretty heavy role along w/ Neogi, beholders, mindflayers, drow, duergar (the standard races) There are no goblinoids or trogs... which is strange. The game is a very political game with lots of exploration and searching around.

Campaign Guidelines

[B]Only Playable races[/B]
Gray Dwarf
Drow
Kuo toa
Githzerai
Grimlock
Ogre
Minotaur

[B]Only Books allowed[/B]
PHB, PHB II, DMG & XPH
Complete Adventurer, Arcane, Divine, Warrior & Psionic
Races of Stone & the Underdark book
Book of Vile Darkness (no soul eater :( )
No other books are used and nothing from the web.

character level 13
starting gold: 110,000 gp
starting XP: 80,000

Do's & Dont's

• I don't want to play a wizard, beguiler, cleric, favored soul or druid.

• I do want a really evil character.

• I do want a self sustaining/self reliant character that doesn't need to require other party members as much...

• I don't want a one trick pony.

• I do want a decent character in combat and outside of combat

I have some ideas but maybe someone will have something that will inspire me.

I was thinking of playing some of the following.

Lurk 5 / Assassin 2 / Dark Hunter 5 / Assassin X

Warlock 5 / Rogue 2 /Assassin 10 

Rogue 5 / Assassin 5 / Divine Crusader 2 / Black Flame Zealot X

Ardent 5 / Warmage 4 / Cerebremancer X

Duskblade 13 / Ur-Priest 2 / MT X

Ranger X / Barbarian X / Mortal Hunter X / Warshaper X

any suggestions or changes w/in the campaign guidelines?
good feats for the builds? what race? tactics? synergy?

thanks!

 

[griff_goodbeard]

A Gray Dwarf rogue 3/ duskblade 4/ Earth Dreamer 5 could be fun.

 

[Wrathamon]

A Gray Dwarf rogue 3/ duskblade 4/ Earth Dreamer 5 could be fun.

Interesting, I was looking at Earth Dreamer but never thought about using duskblade...
Where would you take it next? Feats?

any thoughts on the other builds I listed?

 

[Zaruthustran]

I recommend dark elf warlock. Just an evil, diabolical little elf. The Int, Cha, and Dex boosts all help you as a Warlock.

Take Mortalbane from BoVD for extra blast damage.

Take Scribe Scroll so you can scribble in your hate-filled little "journal" and use Imbue Item (Warlock 12) to create whatever spells you want, including healing spells. There's your self-reliance. Maybe even take Craft Wondrous. You'll be very valuable to the party, so they'll have incentive to keep you around. Just don't tell them that everything you create for them, you infuse with a back-door command word that allows you to shut off the magic with a single shout. >

For invocations, be sure to take summon swarm. In the confined spaces of the Underdark swarms are even deadlier than usual. They're almost useless against things with DR but they ignore saves, AC, and SR and are great for clearing masses of enemies. And the "immune to weapon damage" thing is pretty great. >

Also take Baleful Utterance to collapse ceilings on people, destroy bridges, or tunnel your way through the rock.

If that's not your bailiwick, how about a minotaur? Take the charge-optimizing feats to really take advantage of that 4d6 gore attack. Also, if you go the Large strong guy route, consider investing in grappling. Maybe go Barbarian (bear totem variant from Unearthed Arcana) for free Improved Grapple. Also, read this thread: http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?t=791388 and then ask if your DM will allow Dungeonscape. >

 

[Wrathamon]

I played a Warlock similar to that before... I dont have much fun playing a straight warlock.

Dungeonscape is not used nor is UA.

Any thoughts on the builds I suggested?

 

[Wrathamon]

A Gray Dwarf rogue 3/ duskblade 4/ Earth Dreamer 5 could be fun.

dodge
mobility
spring attack
Mobile Spellcaster
Two Weapon Fighting

I could see some nasty with this

Maybe then go Daggerspell Mage? Fatespinner? more Duskblade? Assassin? Arcane Trickster?

thoughts?

here is anohter thought

Deep Dwarf Duskblade 5 / Dark Hunter 5 / Earth Dreamer 5 / Fate Spinner 5

CL 15 Duskblade, Death Attack DC 15+Int + (-10 from Fate Spinner & must reroll the save if they make it) Hide in Plain sight (when next to a wall ).

 

[Wrathamon]

How do you feel Daggerspell Mage works w/ Duskblade?