Here's to the extinction of the AOO
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FireLance
Legend
I think it depends greatly on what you want to achieve with respect to game play.
If you want combats to be more mobile, then reducing the risk for moving around in combat is a good idea.
If you want characters to attempt more combat maneuvers such as trip, disarm and sunder, then reducing the risk for attempting such maneuvers is a good idea.
If magic spells are closer in power to what characters of other classes will be able to do, then there is less of a need to add an additional risk for casting spells in combat.
On the other hand, the ability to make an AOO under certain circumstances might be a good way to balance the disparity in actions between a single tough monster and a party of five adventurers (see the description of a fight against a dragon for details).
If you want combats to be more mobile, then reducing the risk for moving around in combat is a good idea.
If you want characters to attempt more combat maneuvers such as trip, disarm and sunder, then reducing the risk for attempting such maneuvers is a good idea.
If magic spells are closer in power to what characters of other classes will be able to do, then there is less of a need to add an additional risk for casting spells in combat.
On the other hand, the ability to make an AOO under certain circumstances might be a good way to balance the disparity in actions between a single tough monster and a party of five adventurers (see the description of a fight against a dragon for details).
Lurks-no-More
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I've never quite understood the hatred of AoOs. Grappling slowing the game down, I can understand; it doesn't come up that often, so people often don't learn (or don't bother learning, as it may) the rules by heart.
Anyway, I really hope some form of AoO-like mechanic remains, to keep people from blithely passing between enemies to attack the wizards and whatnot in the back.
Anyway, I really hope some form of AoO-like mechanic remains, to keep people from blithely passing between enemies to attack the wizards and whatnot in the back.
Lurks-no-More
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Easier, yes, but with AoOs, you *can* pass there... just not without a risk. Adds an element of tactical consideration, and doesn't in my experience slow the game down significantly.epochrpg said:
cthulhu_duck
First Post
Lurks-no-More said:
I actually wonder if that explains most of the hatred - people who didn't want to bother understanding how it worked, encountering it in game.
What slows down combat or other situations where there's a conflict to be resolved in my experience is people encountering a rule that they haven't bothered to understand fully until that moment - whether it be a specific combat action, spell, feat or attack of opportunity.
In my experience, the players hunting down dice to roll slows play down more than attacks of opportunity.
vagabundo
Adventurer
Lurks-no-More said:
I think if AOOs were as simple as that then I would like them more. It was the amount of things in a face to face encounter that could trigger AOOs that caused problems for people.
I didnt really have a problem with AOOs but I would decide from common sense (not 100% rules based probably) if an AOO applied.
Well judging from the dragon battle article, AoO are being replaced with Immediate Actions.
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