Heroes Fall

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Even more folks have learned his identity since A Death in the Family. Other than heroes with no secret identity -- like the Flash, for a while -- Batman is arguably the hero who has more people knowing his secret than anyone else, including a ton of villains.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

I might be nuts, but I'd play an entire campaign like that. In a heartbeat.

Since the backstory for my campaign setting is that it's "The Town Where Heroes Are Born" (there's even a song!), I'm starting to think I need to run a one-shot like this soon, with my players thus fleshing out the events of decades ago, before the current status quo was in place. And, of course, there's the old threat returning that only they can deal with ...

 

[GoodKingJayIII]

Players: " .......so.....I'm A DRUID!!"

Fixed that for you.

 

[William drake]

Well, that's technically incorrect. The DC Universe has an ongoing continuity and, typically, once somebody learns something, they continue to know it. Whether it comes up again or not is another issue entirely, but that wasn't my initial point. My point was that many people know that Bruce Wayne is Batman, even if it isn't popping up in every issue.

[Note: I've read nearly every Batman comic published since the hero's first appearance in Detective comics up until A Death in the Family.]

Well, I disagree. Just like Marvel, Dc is not linear; there are alot of differnt variations of the Dc univers. If so, then why isn't Batman always dating Wonderwoman, or Catwoman, or why does the time, and style of Gothem city not remain the same in each issue. Why isn't Superman always married to Lois Lane, why in some, has he been morning her and why in some dose he have a child, and others not...these things are subject to the writers of: the DarkKnight, Batman, Batman Detective Comics, and the other comics which Batman shows up in. Its not One Great Telling, what comics are connected are stated as such. The others are snap shots of that world, at that time, as the writers of Dc, and Batman, of what ever issue, saw fit to tell or change as We, the people, wished to see.

I mean, look at Luthor...he's relation ship, personality, stlye, and reasons for doing what he does, have changed so many times.

But, this just be me, but that's what I, and those who I know that read comics, feel.

Game On.

 

[WizarDru]

I don't see a problem running such a game any more than running a game with a BBEG. Superman can't be everywhere, and a character like Robin knows (at least some of) his secrets. In a toe to toe fight, Robin is doomed.

But he's the Scion of the Bat. And remember DC's Golden Rule: "With sufficient time for preparation, Batman can beat anyone.

There was a whole story sequence in Justice League where someone (R'as al Ghul, I think) got ahold of Batman's emergency files, describing how to defeat each and every member of the league, if they went evil, and used it against them.

For a game like this, you take a PL 8 character, give him and some cohorts access to a PL14 character's base or maybe some of his hidden resources and give him that file. Make it so he has to take down much more powerful corrupt heroes, but only with planning and proper use of equipment. See: The Dark Knight Returns for an example (a title that hasn't aged well, IMHO, but that's neither here nor there).

I could see this being a lot of fun, actually, with the right mindset.

 

[jdrakeh]

Well, I disagree. Just like Marvel, Dc is not linear; there are alot of differnt variations of the Dc univers. If so, then why isn't Batman always dating Wonderwoman, or Catwoman, or why does the time, and style of Gothem city remain the same. Why isn't Superman always married to Lois Lane, why in some, he's been morning her...these things are subject to the writers of: the DarkKnight, Batman, Batman Detective Comics, and the other comics which Batman shows up in. Its not One Great Telling, what comics are connected are stated as such. The others are snap shots of that world, at that time, as the writers of Dc, and Batman, of what ever issue, saw fit to tell or change as We, the people, wished to see.

I mean, look at Luthor...he's relation ship, personality, stlye, and reasons for doing what he does, have changed so many times.

But, this just be me, but that's what I, and those who I know that read comics, feel.

Game On.

Well, whatever. Thanks!

 

[William drake]

Even more folks have learned his identity since A Death in the Family. Other than heroes with no secret identity -- like the Flash, for a while -- Batman is arguably the hero who has more people knowing his secret than anyone else, including a ton of villains.

Well, perhaps I've not read where all of this has gone one, but if it's true...and I'm not saying it is. Then Batman, no matter how good he is, should be dead. As should Robin, Batgirl and Nightwing. You can't just kill one, you have to kill them all; because wouldn't that make sense. Gothem finds out who batman is, batman is killed by Joker, or whoever...then, they find out, since now Wane Mannor has been burnt to the ground, who everone else is, or who's known all this time. Gothem would be turned on its head.

I mean, it just doesn't make sense to me that so many people know and have not killed him already. Batman, since his origin, has known that his Mask, is what is keeping him alive. Its brought up in every story, and some of the movies, where there's been a conflict with the "Batman Life" and what it means to hide one's idenity to fight injustice.

Now, I agree, and have said, that in the past, in some issues of a particular plotline, that some people, good and bad, have found out who Batman was, but that was the point, for that story, and to me, it was that story alone.

Game On. *as you can tell, I love Batman.*

 

[William drake]

Well, whatever. Thanks !

Yeah, this is fun; wish I had more people to discuss modern day myth figures with.