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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nemesis Destiny" data-source="post: 5487816" data-attributes="member: 98255">I'd have XP'd you for this, but I already got you today.It seems like this discussion is at a loggerhead. Why does this matter? Why should they print exclusive material for the older classes? There are already eight books and several magazine articles full of stuff exclusive to PH1-3 classes. Why do we need more? Why not books full of things everyone can use? And why not a few things that only the Essentials classes can use? Fair is fair.Wizard powers typically do not make much use of build-specific  riders. Yes there are a few from Arcane Power, but they are by far in  the minority.Aside from a small benefit that triggers off a keyword in the top part  of the power, which itself refers back to a paragraph or three of text  (both these options take 1 page), there is no evidence that there is  anything exclusive to the mage in any of the new wizard powers.  Example. Beguiling Strands. It's a great at-will. Arguably better than  Thunderwave. It has the Enchantment keyword, yet, it remains a strong  option, even for an implement Wizard, even though they get nothing from  the Enchantment keyword.There looks to be very little in this book that a mage can make use of that an implement wizard will not also be able to make effective use of. Sure, we don't know until we crack it open, or get more preview material. Clearly, this book has to do with Essentials, but it is not an Essentials book. That line is a series, 10 products. No more, no less. This is not one of them.This book contains options for Essentials characters, but also options for non-Essentials characters. This book contains new classes. Classes we know very little about. It might be that some of them are Essentials-style with streamlined options, but it may also be that some of them have more in common with, and similar power structure to older classes.Someone who saw the Binder, was presumably at DDXP, told you the Binder is not an Essentials class, but rather more similar to the Curse Warlock, but you didn't believe them. That's your hangup, I guess, but why not take another poster at their word when they have seen it and you have not?You know, it might not even resemble either Essentials or Curselock. What is it then? This is probably a false assumption, but you sure are fighting pretty hard against them presenting anything exclusive to an Essentials class. It does lend the impression that you don't like Essentials.I guess it would be fairer to say that you want them to print a pile of things that the Essentials classes can't use. You want Shadowshard implements, Shadowcurse Pact Warlocks (with a full suite of 1-30 powers with exclusive riders), a slew of Shadow-themed Cleric powers that Warpriests can't take (to add to the two books full of powers they already can't take, while the reverse is not true). Do I read you right?I suppose that opinion is no more or less valid than anyone else's. It just won't sell books, so they're not going to do it. Like another poster pointed out, this is the kind of thing that we're likely to see in a Dragon article. I'm not even sure what stovepipe means in this case, but I will say that your examples only served to point out that you want things exclusive to pre-Essentials classes, which, for my part, hardly seems fair considering the vast amount of it that is already out there.</blockquote>

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