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<blockquote data-quote="gyor" data-source="post: 5488786" data-attributes="member: 6670153">Thank you for answering. I don't think the lost surge really cripples it at all, I'm surprised that with things like that character op boards that you guys didn't see the dissatifacation that the op crowd would have for it. That being said I personally feel that the shades racial utilities are like a free mullticlass that doesn't take up your multiclass slot or feats so if you have to take one feat to get your surge back big deal.As for the racial power standard action question clearly it meant to be primarily a non combat power with situational combat uses such as retreating. In fact a party of Shades coud be very interesting. Makes me think of spectural panthers strageties. My thinking is like changelings Shades will be most effective in a party of thier own kind where you can use thier non combat abilities to change that nature of battles. The irony of shades to is that they excell not in improving sneaky classes but in making none sneaky classes sneaky such as a shade cavalier or wizards.I'm excited about the release of the book. I wonder fluff wise how your going to keep vrylokas and vamps seperate. My guess is by using thier greek origin of vrylokas as opposed to a bram stroker hollywood flavour for vamps. Plus as the Vrylokas are a race they will have thier own culture perhaps with greek influences.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="gyor, post: 5488786, member: 6670153"] Thank you for answering. I don't think the lost surge really cripples it at all, I'm surprised that with things like that character op boards that you guys didn't see the dissatifacation that the op crowd would have for it. That being said I personally feel that the shades racial utilities are like a free mullticlass that doesn't take up your multiclass slot or feats so if you have to take one feat to get your surge back big deal. As for the racial power standard action question clearly it meant to be primarily a non combat power with situational combat uses such as retreating. In fact a party of Shades coud be very interesting. Makes me think of spectural panthers strageties. My thinking is like changelings Shades will be most effective in a party of thier own kind where you can use thier non combat abilities to change that nature of battles. The irony of shades to is that they excell not in improving sneaky classes but in making none sneaky classes sneaky such as a shade cavalier or wizards. I'm excited about the release of the book. I wonder fluff wise how your going to keep vrylokas and vamps seperate. My guess is by using thier greek origin of vrylokas as opposed to a bram stroker hollywood flavour for vamps. Plus as the Vrylokas are a race they will have thier own culture perhaps with greek influences. [/QUOTE]

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