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Message: <blockquote data-quote="SteveC" data-source="post: 9447943" data-attributes="member: 9053">So this may be my own "step on a rake moment," but I have to comment on some of the hate for early Caves of Chaos comments. I think it's pretty obvious that I'm not a fan of the "kill the little goblins or other humanoids" parts of the Caves. At the same time, there were a ton of people who played it that way. And the thing is, if you play goblins or other creatures as just being evil, you're not doing badwrongfun. And you're certainly not doing something morally wrong. One of the shows I've been watching recently is Frieren: Beyond Journey's End. It's a really good show talking about a lot of issues with elves who have lived for over a thousand years. One of the things I find really interesting is how they do demons. Demons are evil, but they also know how humans act and how they have a sense of morality. They use this to their own advantage in one of the plotlines. The sort of "we're all the same underneath, and we should be listened to" is something that comes up in the series as a way to manipulate people. It's a really good show, and it deconstructs some of the things that we've already deconstructed in games and gaming. So it's a double deconstruction or something.The whole point is: you can play D&D in different ways and have good and evil be just that. And you're neither a good or bad person for doing that.</blockquote>