Heroes Season 1(#12)---1/22/07-'GODSEND' Mid-Season Cliffhanger Continued

[Hand of Evil]

Never have heard it called that before.

I think Mr. Bennett has mention Linderman before, I am most likely mixing things up, But I thought the was a scene when he was on the phone speaking to Linderman?

He has plus no one questioned, at least yet, on how he got into Nathan's room, while he was sleeping with Jessica, and while Linderman was filming!

 

[Ulrik]

The reason this doesn't work for the Sanders family is for two reasons. They are our primary link to Linderman (IMO, with Simone)

Have you forgotten about Nathan? Not only does he work for Linderman (in some sense), but he and his dad have had ties to him for years. (Although Peter is in the same family, he tries to keep himself away from those connections.)

The Nikki storyline shows us Linderman's nasty side, which wouldn't be apparent otherwise (they just call him a gangster occasionally, nothing is shown), but Nathan is the one who actually has influence with Linderman. Remember that he got the painting back, not Simone. And what's really left of the Nikki-Linderman connection now that Linderman's got his money back and Nikki's in jail?

 

[Flexor the Mighty!]

Have you forgotten about Nathan? Not only does he work for Linderman (in some sense), but he and his dad have had ties to him for years. (Although Peter is in the same family, he tries to keep himself away from those connections.)

Good point. Nathan has already sold his soul to Linderman for 4M.

 

[Umbran]

Also, it's convenient he holds the sword too, if it does indeed focus powers and isn't just Hiro making that up.

I am sure Hiro wasn't making up the folkelore about the sword.

However, we are seeing several cases where what the hero believes to be true has an effect on his powers. For a long time, Issac didn't think he could paint the future without drugs, so he couldn't.

So,there is a third option - Hiro isn't makign it up, but the sword really isn't special, physically. Just so long as Hrio believes it will help him focus, it will do so.

Anyone ever read the Wild Cards series? Think "The Great and Powerful Turtle".

 

[Kaodi]

The sword could be a trap, but on the other hand, who is to say that the ancient Japanese swordsman didn't have actual powers? Perhaps at several times throughout history, people have gained powers. Think of the heroic ages of each civilization.

What I really wonder is, in future seasons, what's going to happene when they start bringing the whole world into the fold. Right now, it's focused on a plot in North America. Only Hiro is from another continent, it seems. However, the map shows people all over the world. Lots of room for expansion, hehehe...

 

[Umbran]

The sword could be a trap, but on the other hand, who is to say that the ancient Japanese swordsman didn't have actual powers?

To be a trap, Linderman would have to have access to temporal information - he'd have to know that Hiro woudl end up thinking he needed it...

Perhaps at several times throughout history, people have gained powers. Think of the heroic ages of each civilization.

HRG has said that he's ben tracking powered-people for over 14 years. So these things are perhaps not all that new...

Only Hiro is from another continent, it seems.

What, Mohinder and his father, and the boy who teaches in dreams don't count? And there's a hero from the Middle East coming, if I am not mistaken. The main plotline is set in North America because that's what the viewers are familiar with.

 

[Hand of Evil]

The sword could be a trap, but on the other hand, who is to say that the ancient Japanese swordsman didn't have actual powers? Perhaps at several times throughout history, people have gained powers. Think of the heroic ages of each civilization.

What I really wonder is, in future seasons, what's going to happene when they start bringing the whole world into the fold. Right now, it's focused on a plot in North America. Only Hiro is from another continent, it seems. However, the map shows people all over the world. Lots of room for expansion, hehehe...

To loop - We know Hiro gets the sword as we saw him with it. It is possible, Hiro jumps back in time to leave the sword for himself, it is even possible that Hiro is his own forefather and has set all the heros in play from the future, appearing in the past, which we may be seeing.

 

[Felon]

What, Mohinder and his father, and the boy who teaches in dreams don't count?

Don't forget the Haitian.

 

[LightPhoenix]

Have you forgotten about Nathan? Not only does he work for Linderman (in some sense), but he and his dad have had ties to him for years. (Although Peter is in the same family, he tries to keep himself away from those connections.)

I have not. However, Simone has had just as much contact as Nathan, if not more - she gets the photo of the painting, she calls about the sword, and it's fairly obvious she's Isaac's art dealer and since Lindy buys all of his paintings, she's deep in. She's obviously familiar with him.

Ugh, didn't mean to hit send yet. Doh!

With regards to Nathan and his father, the first thing is Nathan's father can't be a primary link to Lindy, because we've (seemingly) never seen him, even in the flashback.

Nathan did get the painting, yes. The car crash may or may not have been Lindy's goons. The sex scandal Nathan handily diffused, as if it were nothing. That's not at strong as Nikki's story as far an antipathy goes, and not as seemingly honest as Simone's work with him. In fact, there's good reason for Linderman to lie to Nathan, and has already, and I don't think Nathan's account of him can be trusted.

 

[Arnwyn]

I actually think Ali Larter does a pretty good job. In fact, I like all of the actors involved in the story. The biggest problem with that story (IMO, of course) is that they're barely tied into the overall arc right now, so that story takes up time in an already dense show that could be better used to flesh out some of the people that are involved. It's more evident now, since the heroes are starting to come together, and her/DL/Micah are on the periphery.

/snip/

That's a great analysis, LightPhoenix.

However, you are more generous than I am. I find the Niki character, and her entire storyline, to be just plain boring and uninteresting. It may commit a host of other sins (like disrupting the flow, as you mentioned), but I don't even make it that far before condemning that portion of Heroes.