Heroes Season 1(#17)---2/26/07-'Company Man'

[stonegod]

Heroes, as a whole, reminds an awful lot of Aberrant.

Or Rising Stars or any number of modern "what if supes developed in the real world" works. And that's one of the reasons I like it.

 

[Alzrius]

I think we're probably giving this show a little too much credit for having the entire plot laid out in advance. Some stuff is getting made up as they go along.

I doubt a major television show has part of its plot "made up as it goes along." Everything is scripted out in advance, weeks if not months before the actual shooting, which is itself weeks or months before the episodes air.

Note that Tim Kring himself has said "we have talked about where the show goes up to five seasons".

 

[LightPhoenix]

Or Rising Stars or any number of modern "what if supes developed in the real world" works. And that's one of the reasons I like it.

Or any number of similar stories that came before Rising Stars.

While I like RS, and JMS, he said in an interview that with RS he was pretty much responsible for Heroes, and that's a load of crap. It's a well worked genre.

 

[Kobold Avenger]

Or any number of similar stories that came before Rising Stars.

While I like RS, and JMS, he said in an interview that with RS he was pretty much responsible for Heroes, and that's a load of crap. It's a well worked genre.

I read somewhere that when Tim Kring was coming up with Heroes, someone told him about Rising Stars. He took one look, and put it away refusing to look at that series, because it was too much like the concept he was making.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

Peter doesn't have to die, he just needs to lose his powers. As Future Hiro said to him - Peter has a scar, and it seems prominent enough to make Hiro hesitate when identifying Peter. That scar might be a result of Peter losing his powers.


Did anyone notice that the current episode might also explain why Claire was so important (Save the Cheerleader, Save the World).
If Claire would have been killed by Sylar, the events of this episode would have played out differently - Mr.Radiation and the Telepath would probably still have followed Claires father back to his home (*). And it's also still likely that his boss/associate would also have appeared on the scene and caused Mr.Radiation to lose control over his power. But this time, nobody would have been able to stop him.

(*) or worse - they might have found him in the middle of LA/NY/LV where he is relentlessly hunting Sylar.

 

[Vanuslux]

I liked it a lot too. But upon reflection there were a number of things that bother me. Basically, the whole ending was just plain stupid on Mr. B's part. Sure it was all dramatic and thematic and stuff, but it was still stupid. What's the point of the Haitian wiping his memories? If he only goes back a few hours Mr. B can figure out what he did with no real effort. If he goes back far enough to erase his memory of Claire having a power this is a flare-lit tipoff to his boss that he did know about it all along. And, of course, Matt still knows about it. Basically, the implied memory wipe was totally pointless.

And having the incident take place on the same bridge that he killed Claude... Oh wait, he didn't kill Claude. Unless his boss is a total moron he's gonna think long and hard about that one! (Not at all sure about this, as I didn't think about it until later, but was he travelling in the same direction on the bridge both coming from and going to the Secret HQ?)

I was also extreamly annoyed at his boss for showing up at exactly the worst possible moment and doing something stupid. And then doing something stupider by not finishing Ted off when he went out of control. "Gee, guess I'll just stand here and watch as he blows up half the state." Yeah, right.

Of course, I didn't think of most of this until much later. But still...

The memory wipe is not pointless. There are multiple points where erasing back to would be helpful (though the farther back you go to wipe things it wouldn't be good for Bennett's bosses to find out, the higher the cost in terms of losing things that it would be useful for Bennett to know later on...a double-edged sword, sadly) for giving Bennett plausible deniability. There's no reason for his bosses to assume "Oh...the Haitian wiped out the last year of Bennett's memory...surely this was planned." Remember...things have only really been going off the rail of business as usual for Bennett for a month or two.

As for using the same bridge...I thought the same thing. Kind of dumb. I can't imagine why they picked there to do it.

I also agree about the boss. His whole part in things seemed to simply happen to be there at the perfect time to set a match to a powderkeg for the episode climax.

 

[Fast Learner]

They've made it clear that HG can wipe selected memories. All he has to do is wipe memories of them agreeing to stage something to let Claire go, the staging itself, plus any thoughts Bennett had of where Claire might run to. Poof, HRG has solid cover that HG overwhelmed him, shot him, and drove off with Claire, and as the guy who's theoretically been hiding Claire all this time, HG makes a perfect villain.

It has nothing to do with erasing memory of her having powers or anything like that. Other than use of the same bridge, it's a perfectly good plan, and because it's quite possible that the OWI's Eric Roberts doesn't know that Claude's alive -- we don't see that anyone but HRG and HG know that -- there bridge makes perfect sense, too, as the place where Bennett goes to kill his partners.

What I'm curious about, and that no one seems to have mentioned, is what HG is talking about when he refers to a "higher power when it comes to Claire's life." Is that supposed to be Linderman, then, due to the Nathan connection? Or something else? And why does this other higher power automatically win out over the OWI's Eric Roberts?

 

[Obfuscated]

The "Higher Power in Claire's life" that the Haitian is referring to (that's an almost direct quote from the ep)?

My guess is Future Hiro.

Perhaps the Haitian got the same message that Peter got (Save the Cheerleader. Save the World)

 

[Arnwyn]

Great episode. Properly answering questions while still keeping it exciting and giving more questions that we can look forward to getting answered after time. Masterfully done, IMO.

I will kindly ask...to refrain from posting pre-night vewing of the show. Since this thread is made specifically for Monday night showing.

If you don't mind, for the future.

Thank You.

Yeah, whatever - that won't be happening. Some people got to see the episode earlier than others... and having a duplicate thread on the same episode is stupid.

Besides, the guy posted it in spoiler tags - and that's certainly adequate.

 

[DonTadow]

Seriously guys, thats been a spoken rule on these forums. Don't post reviews until after the official airing begins. Truth's been setting these up for some time, lets show some gratitude.