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<blockquote data-quote="Drew" data-source="post: 3536185" data-attributes="member: 1314">Thanks for the replies. I'm gleaning that, all things being equal, most of you require two rolls to do the (nicely put) &quot;Navy Seal thing&quot;. Being invisible or silenced just negates one of the two rolls.Interesting, because I usually call for one roll or the other, which is why I thought combining them might be a good idea. My real concern was the number of skill points it would free up for the already skill point heavy rogue.That explains why there is a distinction, but it doesn't really say why that distinction is important. Other than governing which skill you're using in opposition (i.e. Listen or Spot), why does it matter mechanically? In either case, one side is rolling dice to gain some kind of advantage and the other is rolling dice to negate that advantage, right? Whether its Spot or Listen seems like needless detail to me. Couldn't the same effect be achieved by simply granting a bonus to the Stealth (MS and Hide combined) roll of the invisible or silenced guy?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Drew, post: 3536185, member: 1314"] Thanks for the replies. I'm gleaning that, all things being equal, most of you require two rolls to do the (nicely put) "Navy Seal thing". Being invisible or silenced just negates one of the two rolls. Interesting, because I usually call for one roll or the other, which is why I thought combining them might be a good idea. My real concern was the number of skill points it would free up for the already skill point heavy rogue. That explains why there is a distinction, but it doesn't really say why that distinction is important. Other than governing which skill you're using in opposition (i.e. Listen or Spot), why does it matter mechanically? In either case, one side is rolling dice to gain some kind of advantage and the other is rolling dice to negate that advantage, right? Whether its Spot or Listen seems like needless detail to me. Couldn't the same effect be achieved by simply granting a bonus to the Stealth (MS and Hide combined) roll of the invisible or silenced guy? [/QUOTE]

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