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Message: <blockquote data-quote="hong" data-source="post: 3542930" data-attributes="member: 537">The occasions on which my PCs have been captured can be counted on the fingers of one hand. That's in ~15 years of D&D. I am quite happy to live with a ruleset that doesn't explicitly take into account something that happens with that frequency.And if they don't want to be heard, the chances are very good that they also don't want to be seen. Do pay attention to the thread.And they all did that better than you.And the reduction in the cost of building stealth/perception-focused characters. And the removal of superfluous complexity, which can only be good in a ruleset already oft-criticised for being excessively complicated. And the removal of another avenue by which people can shoot themselves in the foot, by creating characters that are good at one but not the other of the paired skills. And the removal of another excuse for people to whine about how their characters got teh shaft.Shall I go on?Which, in game terms, are going to be used in conjunction with each other nearly all the time.... which would be, essentially, the same size as the list that exists now (the fact that the current list is implied and distributed over several places in the rules text, rather than explicit and all in one place, is irrelevant to the point at hand). And thus in practical terms, exactly the same time would be required to digest its contents as for the list that exists now. Your point being?Far be it from me to stop you cluttering up your life. Isn't cognitive dissonance a wonderful thing?Well, you don't have to take me seriously if you don't want.Yes, you say that NOW.</blockquote>

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