High-end Paladin builds

[Carpe DM]

Can anyone do better than:

Pal 8 / Cav 2 / Fist of Raz. 10,

Feats:

Power Attack, Mounted Combat, Servant of the Heavens, Divine Might, Ride-by-Attack, Spirited Charge, Weapon Focus-Lance, Extra Smiting?

Riding a Griffin, of course.

I'm looking for smack-level high-end builds. I keep trying to work fighter stuff in here too, I think it may be worth while to take one fighter level to get one of the fighter feats (mounted combat, et al.) taken care of so that a second Extra Smiting comes in. But other than that, I'm not sure how to improve the build.

cheers,

Carpe

 

[Jeremy]

I don't know if you can use it, but my arena paladin just leveled up again and is quite a decent build if I do say so. Or at least, he has proven pretty effective so far.

It's probably not all useable, and may even have some flaws, but it's a fun start to draw ideas from.

NAME:	  Duke Bran Alathar, High Lord of Helm's Farthing,
		   Member of the Lord's Alliance, Senior Steelshield of the Silver Marches
RACE:	  Human
TYPE:	  Medium Humanoid
LEVEL:	 18
CLASS:	 Paladin8/Cavalier10
ALIGNMENT: Lawful Good
DEITY:	 Helm
XP:		158,762
NEXT:	  171,000

STATS:
	 Net	  Base	 Race   Level	Other
STR 26 (+8)   16	   --	 +4	  +6
DEX 10 (--)   10	   --	 --
CON 20 (+5)   14	   --	 --	  +6
INT 10 (--)   10	   --	 --
WIS 10 (--)   10	   --	 --
CHA 22 (+6)   16	   --	 --	  +6

INIT:		 +0 (+0 Dex)
HD:		   18d10+90
HP:		   196
AC:		   28 (+0 Dex, +12 Armor, +6 Shield)
Touch:	   10 (+0 Dex, +0 Deflection)
MOVE:		 20
Arcane Fail%: 0%

SAVES:
Fortitude +24 (+6 Pal, +7 Cav, +5 Con, +6 Cha)
Reflex	+11 (+2 Pal, +3 Cav, +0 Dex, +6 Cha)
Will	  +15 (+2 Pal, +7 Cav, +0 Wis, +6 Cha)
Modifiers:
   Immune to Fear and Disease

ATTACK ROLLS:
BAB:	+18
Melee:  +26
Ranged: +18

WEAPONS:
Weapon				 To Hit	   Damage	   Critical	Special
Lance +5			   +31		  1d8+17	   19-20/x3	Reach
					   +1 Mounted
					   +3 Mounted Weapon (Lance)
					   +2 Charging
					   +6 Smite Evil/+8 dmg
ARMOR
  Type		  Bonus  Max DEX  Armor Check  Arcane Fail%	Special
Full Plate +5   +13	+1	   -5		   35%
Heavy Shield +5 +7	 --	   -1		   15%

FEATS:
1	 Mounted Combat
Hum1  Weapon Focus (Lance)
3	 Ride By Attack
6	 Spirited Charge
9	 Power Attack
12	Divine Might
15	Leadership
18	Improved Critical (Lance)

RACIAL TRAITS:
HUMAN:
  Extra Feat
  Extra Skills

CLASS FEATURES:
Paladin:
  Aura of Good
  Detect Evil
  Smite Evil 2/day
  Divine Grace
  Lay on Hands
  Aura of Courage
  Divine Health
  Turn Undead
  Special Mount
  Remove Disease 1/week
Cavalier:
  Special Mount
  Mounted Weapon Bonus (Lance) +3
  Ride Bonus +8
  Courtly Knowledge
  Unstoppable Charge 5/day
  Mounted Weapon Bonus (Sword) +3
  Burst of Speed
  Full Mounted Attack

OTHER CLASS FEATURES
Paladin:
Spellcasting:
	Level	   Day	 Bonus   DC
	 1st		1		--	 --
	 2nd		0		--	 --

MEMORIZATION:
1st:
2nd:

SKILLS: (33 Paladin pts, 21 Cavalier pts)
Handle Animal					+00(05 ranks, +00 Cha)
Knowledge (nobility and royalty) +14(04 ranks, +00 Int, +10 misc)
Listen						   +10(10 ranks, +00 Wis)
Ride (Griffon)				   +26(21 ranks, +00 Dex, +10 misc)
Spot							 +05(05 ranks, +00 Wis)

LANGUAGES:
Chondathan, Illuskan, Common

EQUIPMENT:
HEAD	  ->
LENSES	->
CLOAK	 ->Cloak of Charisma +6 (36,000)
NECK	  ->Amulet of Health +6 (36,000)
ARMOR	 ->Full Plate +5 (26,650)
ROBE	  ->
VEST	  ->
BRACERS   ->
GLOVES	->
RING 1	->
RING 2	->
BELT	  ->Belt of Giant Strength +6 (36,000)
BOOTS	 ->Boots of Speed (12,000)
BACKPACK  ->
WEAPON (R)->Intelligent Ghost Touch Lance +5 (74,410)
WEAPON (L)->Heavy Shield +5 (25,170)

PERMANENCY:
See Invisibility (CL 20) (7,125)

STORED EQUIPMENT:
locked gauntlet, 8 gp

LANCE (Brightwood):
Alignment: Lawful Good; Int 10, Wis 12, Cha 12; 30' sight/hearing; Ego 7; can use faerie fire 3/day

CONSUMED:
potion of good hope, 1050 gp (in shield hand)
potion of displacement, 750 gp (in belt)
potion of haste, 750 gp (in belt)

********

NAME:	  Goldenhawk
RACE:	  Griffon
TYPE:	  Large Magical Beast
CLASS:	 Griffon7/Special Mount8
ALIGNMENT: Lawful Good
DEITY:	 Helm

STATS:
	 Net	  Base	 Race   Level	Other
STR 24 (+7)   18	   --	 +2	  +4
DEX 15 (+2)   15	   --	 --
CON 16 (+3)   16	   --	 --
INT 09 (-1)   05	   --	 --	  +4
WIS 13 (+1)   13	   --	 --
CHA 08 (-1)   08	   --	 --

HD:		   7d10+8d8+45
HP:		   133
AC:		   30 (-1 Size, +2 Dex, +9 Armor, +10 Natural)
Touch:	   11 (-1 Size, +2 Dex)
MOVE:		 40 ft., fly 90 ft. (average)
CAPACITY:	 2,100 lbs (700 lbs flight capacity)

SAVES:
Fortitude +16 (+6 Pal, +7 Cav, +3 Con)
Reflex	+11 (+9 Gri, +2 Dex)
Will	  +10 (+2 Pal, +7 Cav, +1 Wis)
Modifiers:
   +4 vs Fear w/i 10' of Bran

ATTACK ROLLS:
BAB:	+15
Melee:  +22
Ranged: +17

WEAPONS:
Weapon				 To Hit	   Damage	   Critical	Special
Bite				   +22		  3d6+7		20/x2
Claw				   +20/+20	  1d6+3		20/x2
Rake				   +20/+20	  1d8+3		20/x2

ARMOR
  Type		  Bonus  Max DEX  Armor Check  Arcane Fail%	Special
Chain Shirt	 +9	 +4	   -1		   20%

FEATS:
1	 Flyby Attack
3	 Multiattack
6	 Improved Natural Attack Claw
9	 Improved Natural Attack Bite
12	Spirited Charge
15	Improved Natural Attack Rake

RACIAL TRAITS:
GRIFFON:
  Pounce (Ex)
  Rake (Ex)
  +4 to Jump/Spot

CLASS FEATURES:
Special Mount:
  Empathic Link (Su)
  Improved Evasion (Ex)
  Share Spells
  Share Saving Throws
  Improved Speed (Ex)
  Command Griffon (Sp) 6/day
  Spell Resistance (Ex) Bran Level +5

SKILLS: (18 Griffon pts)
Jump	+10(00 ranks, +06 Str, +4 misc)
Spot	+23(18 ranks, +01 Wis, +4 misc)

LANGUAGES:
Common

EQUIPMENT:
HEAD	  ->
LENSES	->
CLOAK	 ->
NECK	  ->
ARMOR	 ->Chain Shirt Barding +5 (25,550)
ROBE	  ->
VEST	  ->
BRACERS   ->
GLOVES	->
RING 1	->
RING 2	->
BELT	  ->
BOOTS	 ->
BACKPACK  ->Exotic Double Military Saddle (60)
WEAPON (R)->
WEAPON (L)->

STORED EQUIPMENT:

CONSUMED:
potions of displacement, 750 gp (in beak)

********

NAME:	  Prelate Taman Windrivver, Green Warden of Mielikki
RACE:	  Human
TYPE:	  Medium Humanoid
LEVEL:	 16
CLASS:	 Cleric
ALIGNMENT: Lawful Good
DEITY:	 Mielikki
XP:		124,593
NEXT:	  136,000

STATS:
	 Net	   Base	Race   Level	Other
STR 16 (+3)   16	   --	 --
DEX 13 (+1)   12	   --	 +1
CON 14 (+2)   14	   --	 --
INT 08 (-1)   08	   --	 --
WIS 25 (+7)   16	   --	 +3	  +6
CHA 08 (-1)   08	   --	 --

INIT:		 +1 (+1 Dex)
HD:		   16d8+32
HP:		   107
AC:		   30 (+1 Dex, +13 Armor, +6 Buckler)
Touch:	   11 (+1 Dex)
MOVE:		 20
Arcane Fail%: 35%

SAVES:
Fortitude +17 (+10 Cleric, +2 Con, +5 Resistance)
Reflex	+11 (+5 Cleric, +1 Dex, +5 Resistance)
Will	  +22 (+10 Cleric, +7 Wis, +5 Resistance)
Modifiers:
   +4 vs. Fear Saves if within 10' of Bran

ATTACK ROLLS:
BAB:	+12
Melee:  +15
Ranged: +19

WEAPONS:
Weapon				 To Hit	   Damage	   Critical	Special
Comp [+6] Longbow +5   +22		  1d8+8		20/x3
		divine power   +28		  1d8+14
		divine favor   +33		  1d8+19

ARMOR
  Type		  Bonus  Max DEX  Armor Check  Arcane Fail%	Special
Full Plate +5   +13	+1	   -5		   35%
Bucker +5	   +6	 --	   --		   10%

FEATS:
1	Mounted Combat
Hum1 Mounted Archery
3	Martial Weapon Proficiency (Composite Longbow)
6	Zen Archery
9	Point Blank Shot
12   Quicken Spell
15   Rapid Shot

RACIAL TRAITS:
Human:
  Extra Feat
  Extra Skills

CLASS FEATURES:
Cleric:
  Good Aura
  Spells
  Animal Domain [speak with animals 1/day, knowledge (nature)]
  Travel Domain [auto freedom of movement]
  Turn Undead 2/day

OTHER CLASS FEATURES
Cleric:
Spellcasting:
	Level	   Day	 Bonus   DC
	 0th		6		---	17
	 1st		5+1	  +2	 18
	 2nd		5+1	  +2	 19
	 3rd		5+1	  +2	 20
	 4th		4+1	  +1	 21
	 5th		4+1	  +1	 22
	 6th		3+1	  +1	 23
	 7th		3+1	  +1	 24
	 8th		2+1	  --	 25

DOMAINS SPELLS:

1 Calm Animals
2 Hold Animal
3 Dominate Animal
4 Summon Nature’s Ally IV*
5 Commune with Nature
6 Antilife Shell
7 Animal Shapes
8 Summon Nature’s Ally VIII*
9 Shapechange

1 Longstrider
2 Locate Object
3 Fly
4 Dimension Door
5 Teleport
6 Find the Path
7 Teleport, Greater
8 Phase Door
9 Astral Projection

MEMORIZATION:
 0th:Create Water x2, Light x2, Guidance x2
 1st:Entropic Shield x3, Obscuring Mist x2, Divine Favor x2, Longstrider
 2nd:Align Weapon x2, Spiritual Weapon x4, Resist Energy, Locate Object
 3rd:Dispel Magic, Invisibility Purge, Magic Circle vs Evil, Prayer, Searing Light x3, Fly
 4th:Divine Power, Dismissal, Freedom of Movement x2, Dimensional Anchor, Dimension Door
 5th:Flame Strike, Quick Bless, Quick Divine Favor, Quick Shield of Faith x2, Teleport
 6th:Quick Spiritual Weapon x4, Antilife Shell
 7th:Destruction x4, Greater Teleport
 8th:Antimagic Field, Fire Storm, Summon Nature’s Ally VIII

SKILLS: (32 cleric pts)
Concentration +21 (19 ranks, +2 Con)
Ride		  +04 (03 ranks, +1 Dex)
Spellcraft	+15 (16 ranks, -1 Int)

LANGUAGES:
Chondathan, Illuskan, Common

EQUIPMENT:
HEAD	  ->
LENSES	->
CLOAK	 ->Cloak of Resistance +5 (25,000)
NECK	  ->Amulet of Wisdom +6 (36,000)
ARMOR	 ->Full Plate +5 (26,650)
ROBE	  ->
VEST	  ->
BRACERS   ->
GLOVES	->
RING 1	->
RING 2	->
BELT	  ->
BOOTS	 ->Boots of Speed (12,000)
BACKPACK  ->
WEAPON (R)->Composite [+6] Longbow +5 (51,000)
WEAPON (L)->Buckler +5 (25,165)

STORED EQUIPMENT:
86 Arrows
locked gauntlet, 8 gp
Wands of Cure Light Wounds (Gift from Ramus) (50/50) (750 GP)
20 Silver Arrows
20 Cold Iron Arrows
50 Adamantine Arrows

CONSUMED:


WON:
+12000 vs Vladimir
+227,143 Angband

CASH
1,976 gp

 

[handforged]

Cleric 6/Prestige Paladin(UA) 4/Fist of Raziel 10

You might be able to fit some Cavalier in there somewhere, I don't know much about the class.

~hf

 

[Jeremy]

Cavalier allows for *5 damage with a mounted lance charge 5 times per day, attack bonus with the lance, ride bonuses, and the ability to full attack even when your mount moves. --oh, and it stacks with paladin for special mount abilities.

 

[Carpe DM]

Talk me through that last one. You end up with, what, 17 spellcaster levels at the end?

 

[FireLance]

If you're using Unearthed Arcana, try a Human Paragon 3/Cleric 4/Prestige Paladin 3/Fist of Raziel 10. BAB +18, casts spells as a 17th-level cleric, and you get a +2 to any ability score (Charisma would probably be best) and a bonus feat from your Human Paragon levels. Take Practised Spellcaster from Complete Divine to cast spells as a 20th-level caster, and Divine Spell Power from the same book to get a chance to boost it even higher by spending a use of Turn Undead. This is the build that best balances clerical spellcasting and melee capability that I can come up with using WotC material.

 

[handforged]

Fire Lance, that is a good build.

 

[Carpe DM]

Yes, FireLance's build is pretty good. And I take it that Clerics are still enough "Wizards in Plate" to make it worthwhile. Although they took Finger of Death away...

cheers,

Carpe

 

[Tar-Edhel]

If you're using Unearthed Arcana, try a Human Paragon 3/Cleric 4/Prestige Paladin 3/Fist of Raziel 10. BAB +18, casts spells as a 17th-level cleric, and you get a +2 to any ability score (Charisma would probably be best) and a bonus feat from your Human Paragon levels. Take Practised Spellcaster from Complete Divine to cast spells as a 20th-level caster, and Divine Spell Power from the same book to get a chance to boost it even higher by spending a use of Turn Undead. This is the build that best balances clerical spellcasting and melee capability that I can come up with using WotC material.

Just note that to get to CL17, you should begin with one cleric level. You'll get +2 CL with human paragon only if you were member of a spellcasting class prior to your entry in that paragon class. If you start with HPar, yo uloose those 2 caster levels...

 

[FireLance]

Just note that to get to CL17, you should begin with one cleric level. You'll get +2 CL with human paragon only if you were member of a spellcasting class prior to your entry in that paragon class. If you start with HPar, yo uloose those 2 caster levels...

Actually, to max out this build, start with one level of Human Paragon to get more skill points at first level (Human Paragon HD is also d8, so you don't lose out there), and add one level of Cleric next. Thereafter, any level of Human Paragon or Cleric will add to your spellcaster level.