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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 6570794" data-attributes="member: 5834">If you read the banish spell, it permanently banishes creatures native to other planes permanently. The spell duration is irrelevant. Dispel magic can do the same thing.Dave's claim was that he had multiple casters with extremely high DCs ready to cast banishment in every major encounter. Of course in scenarios like that, planar binding is of marginal use. But that isn't how most encounters are designed. A summoned creature will be very effective in 90% plus of encounters, including end game dragon encounters which don't usually have casters present. It's not as easy to get rid of summoned creatures as Dave makes it sound. A summoned creature or three combined with a simulacrum and regular spell casting is quite potent for damage dealing. As potent or more than casting foresight on your fighter and letting him swing at things. You can also summon specialized creatures at higher level depending on your needs, such as creatures immune to the breath weapons of dragons or capable of casting spells on your behalf. Contrary to what Dave says, I think he does have to prove that tactics involving planar binding and simulacrum don't work in the standard game (as in not his custom game) for people to believe what he claims. He made a false claim that those abilities don't work as well as others think. That only applies to his game with customized monsters, not the game as it is designed. What if a DM in a regular game has some wizard pull those tactics out and they toss his game sideways. What will that player think? Gee, I should have made customized monsters that favor martials like Dave? It was a ridiculous assertion DaveDash didn't want to defend because he couldn't defend it. I find it strange when someone is proven wrong, they don't admit it and adjust their viewpoint. It seems to be par for the course for the Internet.</blockquote>

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