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Holy Avenger Rogue

I clicked the link, but I didn't understand... My brain need to scandisk and defrag every morning, and I haven't done so yet...
 

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gamecat said:
I clicked the link, but I didn't understand... My brain need to scandisk and defrag every morning, and I haven't done so yet...

No, need to wrap your brain in soft tissue, here is the most relevant comment:

Regarding "Aggemam":

The Danish "band", Gramsespektrum, is not a rap band. They do rap songs though, but if you listen (and understand) the texts, you will find out that it's all about humor.

I like Gramsespektrum. They changed the world. Even though the Aggemam sketch is about 5 years old now, it's still as funny as 5 years ago.

Aggemam means "Is that food" in a baby's language. The "Aggemam"-man is asking this all the time - which irritates other people a lot.

"Aggemam"? (is that food)
"Nej, det er en x" (no, that's a x) where x is replaced with various items
"Maam?" (foood?)
"Nej - du kan ikke spise det" (No - you can't eat it)

That's the basic syntax of aggemam sketches.

You need to be Danish in order to understand the humor - and laugh.
 




I think that you can definately use the sword with UMD.

If being a Paladin isn't a feature of being a Paladin, I don't know what is.

Emulate Class Feature: Sometimes the character needs to use a class feature to activate a magic item. The character's effective level in the emulated class equals the character's result minus 20.

This skill does not let the character use the class feature of another class. It just lets the character activate magic items as if the character had the class feature.

If the class whose feature the character is emulating has an alignment requirement, the character must meet it, either honestly or by emulating an appropriate alignment as a separate check (see below).

When I first read that passage when the PHB was released, using a Holy Avenger was the first thing that I thought of. Using the Holy Avenger requires 1 level of Paladin, so if you get a 21 or more on your Emulate Class Feature check, then you can act as a 1st level Paladin for the purposes of using the sword. Your class level for using the sword's dispel ability would be dependant on your UMD check.

Also, in 2nd edition, Holy Sword use was actually a class feature of the Paladin that was mentioned in the class write up. Although that is no longer the case, I think it is within the intent of the rules for a rogue to use one.

Obviously, an additional UMD check is required unless you are also LG.

Its pretty powerful, but a Holy Avenger is worth 120k, so its a sizable chunk of a character's wealth, whether they are "cheating" at using it or not. And if you run out of adventure ideas, you can always have a group of paladin's go after the character, determined to give the sword to a more fitting wielder. Also, note than an intelligent Holy Avenger would be much harder to fool. I can even imagine a rogue trying so hard for so long to pretend to be LG that he actually undergoes a change.
 

Zerovoid said:
If being a Paladin isn't a feature of being a Paladin, I don't know what is.

Look at the class features list of the paladin.

You misinterprete the term 'class feature' with the word 'feature'.
 

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