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Holy Symbols: are they God-specific? Can they be altered?
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<blockquote data-quote="AverageTable" data-source="post: 4388717" data-attributes="member: 71718"><p>I agree that this idea is probably better. If you don't want an incompatible holy symbol to be completely useless to a cleric, then it's probably better to treat it as <em>technically</em> usable but <em>effectively</em> crappy (like a fighter with an inoptimal weapon), rather than simply letting him turn a holy symbol of Lloth into one of Pelor with a quick, half-assed prayer.</p><p> </p><p>Exactly what the limitations of using an incompatible holy symbol should be, however, would a question requiring further thought.</p><p> </p><p>-------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p> </p><p>But if we're going to start talking about using incompatible symbols without somehow miraculously "changing" them, then we raise a whole new problem.</p><p> </p><p>The real issue with incompatible holy symbols is that, from any sort of roleplaying perspective, the mere notion of a cleric using the symbol of a god other than his own, particularly one <em>opposed</em> to his own, is downright rediculous.</p><p> </p><p>Clerics aren't merely "guys who like gods", they're people who have built their <em>entire lives</em> around their faith and have pledged to <em>dedicate and devote those lives</em> to the worship and service of one deity (or possibly a few related and compatible deities). In other words, no cleric remotely worthy of the title is going to look at a holy symbol of another god, no matter how powerful a treasure it may be, and wonder "How can I get away with using this?". The idea of actually <em>using</em> another god's holy symbol won't even cross his mind. It would be akin to a Rabbi choosing to carry a Christian cross, or the worshippers at an Islamic mosque deciding to decorate the place with crazy, new-age Wiccan paraphenalia. The mere notion is blasphemous in the extreme.</p><p> </p><p>Mind you that this is, of course, a roleplaying issue only and not a mechanical one. But if you're playing anything more than a kick-in-the-door, beer-and-pretzel game, then how a cleric might use an incompatible holy symbol is a question that shouldn't even come up, because no one should even suggest the idea.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AverageTable, post: 4388717, member: 71718"] I agree that this idea is probably better. If you don't want an incompatible holy symbol to be completely useless to a cleric, then it's probably better to treat it as [I]technically[/I] usable but [I]effectively[/I] crappy (like a fighter with an inoptimal weapon), rather than simply letting him turn a holy symbol of Lloth into one of Pelor with a quick, half-assed prayer. Exactly what the limitations of using an incompatible holy symbol should be, however, would a question requiring further thought. ------------------------------------------------------------------- But if we're going to start talking about using incompatible symbols without somehow miraculously "changing" them, then we raise a whole new problem. The real issue with incompatible holy symbols is that, from any sort of roleplaying perspective, the mere notion of a cleric using the symbol of a god other than his own, particularly one [I]opposed[/I] to his own, is downright rediculous. Clerics aren't merely "guys who like gods", they're people who have built their [I]entire lives[/I] around their faith and have pledged to [I]dedicate and devote those lives[/I] to the worship and service of one deity (or possibly a few related and compatible deities). In other words, no cleric remotely worthy of the title is going to look at a holy symbol of another god, no matter how powerful a treasure it may be, and wonder "How can I get away with using this?". The idea of actually [I]using[/I] another god's holy symbol won't even cross his mind. It would be akin to a Rabbi choosing to carry a Christian cross, or the worshippers at an Islamic mosque deciding to decorate the place with crazy, new-age Wiccan paraphenalia. The mere notion is blasphemous in the extreme. Mind you that this is, of course, a roleplaying issue only and not a mechanical one. But if you're playing anything more than a kick-in-the-door, beer-and-pretzel game, then how a cleric might use an incompatible holy symbol is a question that shouldn't even come up, because no one should even suggest the idea. [/QUOTE]
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