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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8250911" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>I have never seen Action Surge used in a diplomatic setting, because we usually don't care about the action economy in those, so getting a second action isn't terribly useful. I know it can be used for running away, but that generally would require leaving other allies behind, not something I see most players using. </p><p></p><p>So, that leaves second chances (a rare use, but one I have seen) and combat. </p><p></p><p>Also, I have to say, I think you are dead wrong about the Fighter being out-damaged by other classes. Maybe by the paladin, but the Ranger and Barbarian are not usually going to be out-damaging the fighter. And I would not be surprised to learn that the Paladin would struggle to keep up with a high-level action surge fighter on that turn. And you want that to extend for 6 turns? I could never allow that at my table.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 8250911, member: 6801228"] I have never seen Action Surge used in a diplomatic setting, because we usually don't care about the action economy in those, so getting a second action isn't terribly useful. I know it can be used for running away, but that generally would require leaving other allies behind, not something I see most players using. So, that leaves second chances (a rare use, but one I have seen) and combat. Also, I have to say, I think you are dead wrong about the Fighter being out-damaged by other classes. Maybe by the paladin, but the Ranger and Barbarian are not usually going to be out-damaging the fighter. And I would not be surprised to learn that the Paladin would struggle to keep up with a high-level action surge fighter on that turn. And you want that to extend for 6 turns? I could never allow that at my table. [/QUOTE]
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