Homosexuality in the Forgotten Realms

[dragonlordofpoondari]

Mustached, leather clad men? I think those guys are in pretty much every adventure party as-is.

Tee-hee-hee! So true ... so true. They're all so butch.

I want to pick a residential street in Ptolus and talk to one of my players about what a gay neighborhood in the City by the Spire (no jokes, please) would look like.

Genius. What district or street do you have in mind? I would want it near Tavern Row for the, you know, drinking.

 

[Joël of the FoS]

Volo's Guide to Gay Waterdeep?

"Well excuse me dear, where is the YMCA?"



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In Ravenloft 3e, Hazlik, originally from Thay, has an attraction to men. It was written tastefully in the book, and the reference is oblic: one sentence isn't enough to say so, but when you combine the meaning of a few sentences, you get the picture.

Anyway, if you or your players are not at ease with the matter, drop it from your game. Or you could use the opportunity for discussions and education. Just make sur you don't always typecast the guay guy as being evil

Joël

 

[KingCrab]

Anyway, I imagine that there would be a higher incidence among elven population, no matter what setting you consider.

Only a guess.

Is that because Legolas looks like a girl in the LOTR movies? I think elves can tell the difference though...

 

[ruleslawyer]

That was what I was getting at, actually. Ed's personal version of the Realms is neither supported or published by the IP owner, thus, its status as canon is conceptually very, very, questionable. Legally, it may be. Does most of the fanbase know this or care? I think the case is very strong that they do not (if they did, Candlekeep would be the official source of FR material and. . . ah. . . it's not).

True. That said, homosexuality, or at least female homosexuality/bisexuality, crops up often in published Realmslore. Aloevan of Ardeep took male and female lovers, Lliira and Sharess have been said to take female lovers when they were in avatar form during the Time of Troubles, Yanseldara of Elversult has a female consort, and so on. I tend to agree with Shemeska's take on the prevalance of bisexuality among powerful women in the Realms, although at least Ed's not going *too* far into Fritz Leiber territory (I don't recall any group sex scenarios in the FR novels or sourcebooks, although I don't really read the novels).

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Genius. What district or street do you have in mind? I would want it near Tavern Row for the, you know, drinking.

The more I think about it, the more I want to do a neighborhood write-up for Delver's Square. I'll bump this thread when it's posted.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

at least Ed's not going *too* far into Fritz Leiber territory (I don't recall any group sex scenarios in the FR novels or sourcebooks, although I don't really read the novels).

It would explain why they sell so well, though.

 

[Mouseferatu]

It seems like any average to attractive looking female that has magical power or noble rank is bisexual (the current female regent of Cormyr and her court wizardress for instance). At least in some of Greenwood's material it strikes me as something of a massive cliche at this point, and since I've not noticed the same for men of similar standing, it makes it stand out even more.

It's not just FR, either. Especially coming from a partial White Wolf background, I swear if I never see another "sexy lesbian assassin/ninja," it'll be too soon.

It would bother me less if it wasn't such blatant pandering. But at least WW also has its share of openly gay men and/or other lesbian characters. It's a balance TSR/WotC haven't yet managed.

Then again, WW seems often to go in the other direction, with a lot more sample characters being gay than standard population studies would suggest, so who knows? I just don't think anyone among the major RPG companies has yet managed an entirely realistic portrayal.

 

[RangerWickett]

It's not just FR, either. Especially coming from a partial White Wolf background, I swear if I never see another "sexy lesbian assassin/ninja," it'll be too soon.

Sorry.

 

[Mouseferatu]

Sorry.

lol

Not directed at you, man, I promise.

BTW, is it okay to talk about the fact that I'm doing you-know-what in public?

(Man, asking that question in a thread with this topic is just begging for trouble, isn't it? )

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

lol

Not directed at you, man, I promise.

BTW, is it okay to talk about the fact that I'm doing you-know-what in public?

(Man, asking that question in a thread with this topic is just begging for trouble, isn't it? )

Quoted so you can't edit that out.