Homosexuality in the Forgotten Realms

[s.j. bagley]

'Two hot chicks getting it on is not an example of open mindedness and tolerance within the FRCS. It's gamer pr0n. Two hot chicks getting it on do not count. No. They. Don't.'
agreed.
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also, as a gay man, i'm REALLY uncomfortable with folks equating homosexuality with molestation.
please, let's not go down that slippery slippery (and intellectually dishonest, not to mention overtly oppressive and homophobic) slope.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

also, as a gay man, i'm REALLY uncomfortable with folks equating homosexuality with molestation.

Hey, if that happens in this thread, I'll join you in calling shenanigans.

I've had the misfortune of knowing 2 pedophiles personally, and as a Catholic living in the Dallas area, I'm intimately familiar with the Rudy Kos case. All the pedophiles involved were straight.

 

[Erik Mona]

Two hot chicks getting it on is not an example of open mindedness and tolerance within the FRCS. It's gamer pr0n. Two hot chicks getting it on do not count. No. They. Don't.

And I don't mean to single out Erik here (though I just did when I used his name in this sentence). It applies to Star Trek, the new Batgirl, and all forms of geek culture. When Drizzt and Artemis start playing hide-the-sausage, give me a call. But two hot chicks don't count.

Well, I never commented on the hotness of Llira's lover, so I think I'm in the clear.

I put a couple of queer beggar lords in Greyhawk in a Dragon article, though. Do they count?

--Erik

 

[Piratecat]

also, as a gay man, i'm REALLY uncomfortable with folks equating homosexuality with molestation.
please, let's not go down that slippery slippery (and intellectually dishonest, not to mention overtly oppressive and homophobic) slope.

Just so we're clear, as mods we won't permit that here. Please report the post (little exclamation point button at the bottom left of every post) if you run across it.

Thanks!

 

[paradox42]

'Two hot chicks getting it on is not an example of open mindedness and tolerance within the FRCS. It's gamer pr0n. Two hot chicks getting it on do not count. No. They. Don't.'

Yes. They. Do. Sometimes, anyway. Ed's quote above (at least, assuming it actually came from him- source?) proves that at least one author thought about the issue and deliberately chose to put them in as an open-mindedness thing. Now, saying most of them count as geek pr0n, I will agree with. Even though it does nothing for me personally.

also, as a gay man, i'm REALLY uncomfortable with folks equating homosexuality with molestation.
please, let's not go down that slippery slippery (and intellectually dishonest, not to mention overtly oppressive and homophobic) slope.

I... don't see where anybody was doing that, up above? But, I think everybody who's been posting in this thread so far can agree with the sentiment at least. We've all seemed like reasonable people. And as DannyAlcatraz obliquely noted, most child molestation cases are actually hetero. They just don't get sensationalized the way the gay ones do.

 

[paradox42]

I put a couple of queer beggar lords in Greyhawk in a Dragon article, though. Do they count?

Depends. Were they hot?

 

[Faraer]

Not like anyone bothered to actually read that book (it's "just a rehash" of the 2e god books, I understand), but it's in there if you know where to look.

Erik, I've read Faiths and Pantheons and never slagged it off. There's no doubt it has a good amount of new content, obviously in the temple write-ups and also mixed into the longer-form god/priesthood entries. But I turn to the Faiths & Avatars series first, because it is longer and more thorough -- partly due to the god stats which I believe neither you or Eric were in favour of -- I fear the work it takes to get to the new ideas and information means Faiths and Pantheons is never likely to be as well regarded as its predecessors.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

When Drizzt and Artemis start playing hide-the-sausage, give me a call.

That would be the least shocking coming out since Ellen. And Melissa Etheridge. And Rosie O'Donnell.

Well, in any case, it wouldn't be a shock.

 

[BiggusGeekus]

That would be the least shocking coming out since Ellen. And Melissa Etheridge. And Rosie O'Donnell.

Well, in any case, it wouldn't be a shock.

The number of examples in gamer books of a Rosie O'Donnell figure having a physical relationship with absolutely anything even as comedy are so utterly infrequent as to be neigh non-existent.

A true "Brokeback Mountain" moment where the characters are portrayed sympathetically, maturely with the deed not occurring as a vague reference would not only be shocking, it would bring down the already much-abused WotC FR forums.

 

[s.j. bagley]

I agree. That doesn't mean that I disagree with it, though

Great, now I have the image of a "battle" between a nymph and a succubus in mind.



No problem. The guy who's shouting "AAAARGH!" loud enough to be audible in outer space will be me.

Artemis! [sblock=From Road of the Patriarch]
In Road of the Patriarch, he kills a priest that mistreated him when he was young. It isn't spelled out, but it's quite possible that he was molested by that priest. It explains why he's such a bastard, and why he hates clerics.
[/sblock]

i felt that the spoilery bit in this post was heading in that direction.
but i do think there's a difference between heading in that direction, and arriving there.