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Hot take: Only the Hobbit and Lord of the Rings should be viewed as canonical Middle-Earth books
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<blockquote data-quote="Hriston" data-source="post: 8825541" data-attributes="member: 6787503"><p>Your assertion that the writings published in <em>The Silmarillion </em>are not the work of JRR Tolkien shows a complete lack of familiarity with both his work and his biography.</p><p></p><p>Likewise, the premise that Christopher Tolkien was at all concerned with "which varying take was the 'real' one" in his presentation of the HoMe and other books is not supported by the material itself, the stated purpose of which was to lay out the textual evolution of his father's work in all its variable permutations, a purpose that I feel was accomplished admirably.</p><p></p><p>Maybe you should leave it to others more familiar with the actual texts to make pronouncements on which of JRR Tolkien's writings are "canonical", a word which I don't think you're using consistently. If you mean it in the sense of works genuinely written by JRR Tolkien, then the constituent texts from which <em>The Silmarillion </em>was constructed and which have individually been documented and made available in the HoMe must be recognized as part of JRR Tolkien's canon. If you mean it in the sense of a consistent fictional canon, then I would extend Christopher Tolkien's statement that "Complete consistency (... between <em>The Silmarillion </em>and other published writings of [his] father's) is not to be looked for," to the published writings themselves. Not even <em>The Hobbit </em>and the LotR achieve a thorough consistency when taken as a whole. Each work has an internal consistency, but although JRR Tolkien tried to bring <em>The Hobbit </em>into conformity with its sequel, the effort was ultimately futile. Such consistency can only be found in his works when regarded individually.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hriston, post: 8825541, member: 6787503"] Your assertion that the writings published in [I]The Silmarillion [/I]are not the work of JRR Tolkien shows a complete lack of familiarity with both his work and his biography. Likewise, the premise that Christopher Tolkien was at all concerned with "which varying take was the 'real' one" in his presentation of the HoMe and other books is not supported by the material itself, the stated purpose of which was to lay out the textual evolution of his father's work in all its variable permutations, a purpose that I feel was accomplished admirably. Maybe you should leave it to others more familiar with the actual texts to make pronouncements on which of JRR Tolkien's writings are "canonical", a word which I don't think you're using consistently. If you mean it in the sense of works genuinely written by JRR Tolkien, then the constituent texts from which [I]The Silmarillion [/I]was constructed and which have individually been documented and made available in the HoMe must be recognized as part of JRR Tolkien's canon. If you mean it in the sense of a consistent fictional canon, then I would extend Christopher Tolkien's statement that "Complete consistency (... between [I]The Silmarillion [/I]and other published writings of [his] father's) is not to be looked for," to the published writings themselves. Not even [I]The Hobbit [/I]and the LotR achieve a thorough consistency when taken as a whole. Each work has an internal consistency, but although JRR Tolkien tried to bring [I]The Hobbit [/I]into conformity with its sequel, the effort was ultimately futile. Such consistency can only be found in his works when regarded individually. [/QUOTE]
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