How about a deadline to WotC?

[Fifth Element]

So what you are saying is that companies like Paizo, Green Ronin, Necromancers Games and gods know how many other companies have gained less than WotC from the OGL?

I can say without fear of exaggeration that I for one benefited far more from my use of the OGL than WotC did. Not that I benefited a lot, but it was certainly more than my stuff benefited WotC.

 

[Fifth Element]

They really care? Show me. SHow me their caring. Not Scott's words here. Show me their actions.

How about the very existence of the OGL and GSL? They didn't have to do the OGL with 3E. They didn't have to have the GSL with 4E, they could have just closed it up.

What other major gaming company offers a royalty-free license to allow other publishers to use their trademark? Heck, when Green Ronin started licensing True20, they charged a fee.

WOTC's actions show a VERY different picture. THeir constant delay in the GSL orginially, the constant push back, the absoulte hostile license that the GSL was prior to revision and now the delay delay delay of the revision.

If the original GSL is "absoulte" hostile, why is it being used by some companies?

Where does all this anger come from? Between justanobody and carmachu, you'd think WotC ran over their kittens or something.

 

[xechnao]

They can't kill the OGL. They've discontinued the STL. Not the same thing.

Wotc is killing the role of the OGL it created: a license upon the leader rpg flag.

 

[Fifth Element]

Wotc is killing the role of the OGL it created: a license upon the leader rpg flag.

You're going to have to try that one again. No idea what you mean.

 

[xechnao]

How about the very existence of the OGL and GSL? They didn't have to do the OGL with 3E. They didn't have to have the GSL with 4E, they could have just closed it up.

What other major gaming company offers a royalty-free license to allow other publishers to use their trademark? Heck, when Green Ronin started licensing True20, they charged a fee.


If the original GSL is "absoulte" hostile, why is it being used by some companies?

Where does all this anger come from? Between justanobody and carmachu, you'd think WotC ran over their kittens or something.

Do you believe they did it for you or for them? They did it because that seemed the best for Wotc at that point. And if they could have closed it up, they would have done it, I am sure (could here is not about legal, but rather about business sense).
Anyway, GSL is far more sensible on its influence to the community than the OGL I think. Who wants to directly support D&D he can directly support D&D and thats just about it (at least so far it seems to work this way).

 

[justanobody]

You're going to have to try that one again. No idea what you mean.

The OGL was created to give a license to all people wanting one to use D&D material for the latest edition of D&D.

The GSL combines bits from the OGL and STL to which you can use the D&D logo wherein the OGL you could not, but in doing so kills 90% of what people liked about the OGL and its functionality.

This fixes some maj0or flaws with the OGL, but by combining those STL components effectively kills what the OGL was meant to do as it no longer applies to the latest edition of D&D as the OGL is not for the latest edition of D&D.

So the GSL[WotC] does effectively kill the OGL as the OGL no longer applies to the latest edition of D&D, but is replaced by the GSL which does not hold the same role as the OGL did.

 

[xechnao]

You're going to have to try that one again. No idea what you mean.

That the OGL essentialy was a license to market with the leader name.

 

[Shroomy]

Paizo would beg to differ with the idea that the OGL is dead.

 

[joethelawyer]

So the GSL[WotC] does effectively kill the OGL as the OGL no longer applies to the latest edition of D&D, but is replaced by the GSL which does not hold the same role as the OGL did.

how does it kill the ogl when pathfinder is based on the ogl and it is in full swing to keep producing products?

 

[joethelawyer]

That the OGL essentialy was a license to market with the leader name.

not really. that was more the d20 license.