Relique du Madde
Adventurer
That's messed up... I thought restaurants had to work at the state's minimum or federal $7.25 minimum (which ever is higher).... I didn't know the government had a justifiable slave wage.
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That's messed up... I thought restaurants had to work at the state's minimum or federal $7.25 minimum (which ever is higher).... I didn't know the government had a justifiable slave wage.
Relique du Madde
Adventurer
Oh yeah... btw, those are the same work conditions as any non-union warehouse (that is ran by a total jerk-ass ) during the day shift in a hot or humid environment.
Thunderfoot
Hero
Nope, restaurants and bars where the staff interacts with customers for more than asking "do you want fries with that?" are only required to pay their servers a percentage of minimum wage set by the state. Of course, tips, are the primary source of revenue for these folks. My son was working in a sports bar where the tips, frankly, sucked butt most of the time. People would sit at his tables watching games for hours order three drinks and a burger and leave a .50 tip. (I would have found where they lived and torched the place, but that's why I don;t do customer service.)
His new job is much more of a family dining atmosphere so the tips are much better - for instance he pulled a $100 tip on one table the other night. America may have some weird things that we do, but at least we know how to tip.
The minimum wage in Australia is $15.51 an hour. I wouldn't call a $3.26 difference 'far below'. There's also the cost of living to take into account. The cost of living in Australia is significantly higher than it is in America.
Some of us know how to tip.
Relique du Madde
Adventurer
Damn.. See, in California, the minimum wage for waitstaff* is the state's minimum wage, which is why that $2 something is shocking.
But anyways... most of the people in California who don't know how to tip are recent arrivals... (If you know what I'm saying,.. What makes the situation even sadder is considering that most of the waitresses at my family's restaurant, who are also immigrants, loath serving certain tables because they know they will only get a few pennies for a tip at best).
* Note: My family owns a Mexican restaurant.
But anyways... most of the people in California who don't know how to tip are recent arrivals... (If you know what I'm saying,.. What makes the situation even sadder is considering that most of the waitresses at my family's restaurant, who are also immigrants, loath serving certain tables because they know they will only get a few pennies for a tip at best).
* Note: My family owns a Mexican restaurant.
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This is a very misleading article and a false subject line.
Amazon is a good company. They treat their people well. They have competitive benefits, better than you would get at probably 90% of production companies with warehouse workers. They let their employees at many sites bring their dogs to work. They have great parties. They pay a pretty fair amount above minimum wage for many positions you wouldn't expect them to. In general, they're a quality company.
Amazon is no sweat shop. If this warehouse is having problems, no doubt it's the property managers fault or the maintenance crew. Amazon is a huge company and they will lose track of things sometimes. But overall they don't look to shaft their employees.
Problem is the business model aims to keep real estate accumulation to a minimum to keep them flexible in terms of property. They try not to own the real estate they work out of, so they lease a lot of property and leave the management and maintenance of the property to the companies they lease from. So if there is a problem, it is most likely because an outside property management company isn't doing their job.
Shafting employees is not how Amazon keeps costs low. That is bunk.
This is a very misleading article and a false subject line.
Amazon is a good company. They treat their people well. They have competitive benefits, better than you would get at probably 90% of production companies with warehouse workers. They let their employees at many sites bring their dogs to work. They have great parties. They pay a pretty fair amount above minimum wage for many positions you wouldn't expect them to. In general, they're a quality company.
Amazon is no sweat shop. If this warehouse is having problems, no doubt it's the property managers fault or the maintenance crew. Amazon is a huge company and they will lose track of things sometimes. But overall they don't look to shaft their employees.
Problem is the business model aims to keep real estate accumulation to a minimum to keep them flexible in terms of property. They try not to own the real estate they work out of, so they lease a lot of property and leave the management and maintenance of the property to the companies they lease from. So if there is a problem, it is most likely because an outside property management company isn't doing their job.
Shafting employees is not how Amazon keeps costs low. That is bunk.
Personally, I hope you're right, and that this warehouse is the exception, not the rule. That would make it much easier to correct the problem.
If not, they'll be in the same boat as Wal-Mart, which is under investigation in several states- California included- for it's wage & hour practices.
Relique du Madde
Adventurer
Funny you say that since I know two people who rocks at the W-Mart.. let me just say from the stories I heard, I'm not surprised they are under investigation.
IronWolf
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Back in college I used to work in a warehouse during the summers. The dry goods warehouse was known for its tremendous heat in the summer. I wouldn't be surprised at all if it wasn't a 100+ heat index in there on hot summer days. Open dock doors, massive amounts of area to cool - it just wasn't an easy environment to cool. Workers could wear shorts and were certainly encouraged to keep lots of water on hand.
I certainly don't like to see workers abused. But I wouldn't find it surprising to discover that a lot of warehouses in the US had a 100+ heat index this summer with the high temps and humidity good portions of the country saw.
There were a lot of workers that have to work outside that were easily seeing heat indexes of 100+ this summer as well.
I certainly don't like to see workers abused. But I wouldn't find it surprising to discover that a lot of warehouses in the US had a 100+ heat index this summer with the high temps and humidity good portions of the country saw.
There were a lot of workers that have to work outside that were easily seeing heat indexes of 100+ this summer as well.
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