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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jmucchiello" data-source="post: 5071239" data-attributes="member: 813">I still want to know why he isn't allowed to learn what he has done wrong IN PLAY? Did you come to 4e fully aware of all the proper ways to make a character? Didn't you enjoy learning how to better optimize your character? Why are you denying him the chance to learn too? If he never is shown how a 14 in a prime stat is "too low" how can judge why 18 is correct?This is not the same as a player who fails to use all his actions in combat. He used all his point buy. You are just saying he used them improperly. If he decides to charge willy-nilly all around combat when playing a build designed to stand still are you allowed to tell him to knock it off?It is not badwrongfun to play a suboptimal character whether by ignorance or on purpose. If at some point he is dissatified with his character then you can help figure out what went wrong. But if you just tell him up front "you really should do X" you are giving him a fish and not a fishing pole. Human beings learn best from their mistakes. It's a racial advantage.</blockquote>